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MastersunLv11yr
2023-07-21 08:47

The author in this one shows the Uchiha clan as absolute evil, and the Hokage as a white and fluffy rabbit, although in fact the Uchiha clan was in many ways unfairly suppressed by 3 Hokage and advisers

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Mohamedk123
Mohamedk123Lv4

Not really what happen at all

Sonrisa_Oscura
Sonrisa_OscuraLv1

Me explicas tú entonces como es, porque según mi entendimiento sí es así, puesto que aunque los uchiha eran orgullosos más no eran malvados, sus actos de guerra civil contra Konoha es culpa de la misma Konoha al desconfiar tanto del mismo clan que los acompaño durante más de 3 guerras.

Mohamedk123:Not really what happen at all
Rhandson_D
Rhandson_DLv1

yes it was, senju tobirama hatred he passed it for his two students forced the uchiha to work their life away suppressing the trouble the village leaders caused with force as that is what police represents law through force, hokage after hokage did all they could to suppress uchiha development through all means necessary, if the uchiha was not so restricted by plot they would have killed their suppressors and taken everything for themselfs but author has all the power in the end

Mohamedk123:Not really what happen at all
Mohamedk123
Mohamedk123Lv4

1: tobirma did not do his actions because he hated the uchias he did them because They are insanely loyal people but they are clouded by emotions when they lose those precious to them. Proved by almost every uchia shown so far 2: that a big assumption is not based on real evidence especially considering that there is no real proof that there was any big problem with the village when Tombrima became leader also this did not affect the uchias negatively at all 3: the real reason he did that is so the uchias can be closer to the village because they have crazy eye power and so far pretty much only loyal to themself 4: just untrue. The first hokage was pick because they rather him then madra and acuttly liked him. The second hokage rules did not oppressed the uchia now he did make plans if they did went out of hand because he leader and not dumb. The third did nothing to the uchias until after the ninetail attack which was reasonable. The fourth died before he could even do anything. So all this untrue 5: the uchias would have lost. There strongest where itachi, suzu( the guy who gave his eye to itachi), and itachi. The uchia clan without them was at same level as the huguya now some of them might unlock the mokoguyan but not likely because how many uchia went to war and did not. Suzu was dealt with Dunzo ad some his elite roots and let me remind u compare to how much have it was not a lot. They will lose simply because those three can not handle the whole village

Rhandson_D:yes it was, senju tobirama hatred he passed it for his two students forced the uchiha to work their life away suppressing the trouble the village leaders caused with force as that is what police represents law through force, hokage after hokage did all they could to suppress uchiha development through all means necessary, if the uchiha was not so restricted by plot they would have killed their suppressors and taken everything for themselfs but author has all the power in the end
La_Maestro_7787
La_Maestro_7787Lv4

bruh you're capping ,tobirama tagged Uchiha "evil",and he passed down his hatred for them to his students hiruzen was too fearful of Uchiha,danzo coveted their sharingan for himself in the name of"all for the village",on the night of nine tails,he basically sent his Roots to order them to stay in their clan instead of letting them go to help which would have helped mitigate the hatred the civilians had for the Uchiha and the police force is just a deep pit of trouble especially for a clan like Uchiha that is naturally proud of themselves they wouldn't do bad or abuse the power but they would offend everyone with their ruthless enforcement of justice which is right morally but lacking in social skills

Mohamedk123:1: tobirma did not do his actions because he hated the uchias he did them because They are insanely loyal people but they are clouded by emotions when they lose those precious to them. Proved by almost every uchia shown so far 2: that a big assumption is not based on real evidence especially considering that there is no real proof that there was any big problem with the village when Tombrima became leader also this did not affect the uchias negatively at all 3: the real reason he did that is so the uchias can be closer to the village because they have crazy eye power and so far pretty much only loyal to themself 4: just untrue. The first hokage was pick because they rather him then madra and acuttly liked him. The second hokage rules did not oppressed the uchia now he did make plans if they did went out of hand because he leader and not dumb. The third did nothing to the uchias until after the ninetail attack which was reasonable. The fourth died before he could even do anything. So all this untrue 5: the uchias would have lost. There strongest where itachi, suzu( the guy who gave his eye to itachi), and itachi. The uchia clan without them was at same level as the huguya now some of them might unlock the mokoguyan but not likely because how many uchia went to war and did not. Suzu was dealt with Dunzo ad some his elite roots and let me remind u compare to how much have it was not a lot. They will lose simply because those three can not handle the whole village
Mohamedk123
Mohamedk123Lv4

1: k let see 2: I don't remember him saying they are evil ( and I mean manga not anime and I mean after the village came together ) now he did say they were curse because there eye 3: there no prove of that especially when u consider the fact that he of the main reason that they live as long as they did ( after the nine tail attack many people wanted the uchia gone ) 4: that was not hated for the uchia that was dunzo greed for there eye 5: tru but this was becuse of greed and the reason why everyone else in the concel agree was becuse they did not know about obito and madra so it was only logical for the uchia to be blame 6: morally right in what sense because most promblem in the village were cilvins that could be felt with easy by them 7: now can u tell what I was caping

La_Maestro_7787:bruh you're capping ,tobirama tagged Uchiha "evil",and he passed down his hatred for them to his students hiruzen was too fearful of Uchiha,danzo coveted their sharingan for himself in the name of"all for the village",on the night of nine tails,he basically sent his Roots to order them to stay in their clan instead of letting them go to help which would have helped mitigate the hatred the civilians had for the Uchiha and the police force is just a deep pit of trouble especially for a clan like Uchiha that is naturally proud of themselves they wouldn't do bad or abuse the power but they would offend everyone with their ruthless enforcement of justice which is right morally but lacking in social skills
Douglas_Henry
Douglas_HenryLv1

The comment dates back months, but I couldn't help but give my opinion. Let's go. Tobirama feared and respected the Uchihas. Fearful because they are an emotionally unstable, proud, arrogant, and reclusive clan that did not interact with anyone outside the clan. The Uchihas who did were extremely rare. Over 90% of the children from the clan who attended the academy ended up in the police force instead of the classic jonin team and 3 genin, due to the elders' insistence on preventing bonds with people outside the clan. When Tobirama formed the police force, he handed it over to the Uchihas to manage as they saw fit. Obviously, any police force receives a certain amount of hate from its population, but the solution was simple: the clan could have opened the police force to other civilian shinobi and other clans, but they did not. They preferred to keep the police force solely with members of their own clan. For example, the Hyugas, who are as reclusive as the Uchihas and in some aspects even worse, but their children are part of genin teams. Tobirama respected the clan's capacity to love and admired it, so saying he hated them makes no sense because Kagami Uchiha was his student. At most, he was cautious of the clan. Hiruzen never wanted the clan's death; he was even willing to let Shisui use Kotoamatsukami if peace negotiations with the clan failed. However, Danzo was always an extremist, and he orchestrated the Uchiha massacre not out of fear but out of envy, jealousy, and for their eyes. When the Kyubi attack happened, suspicion naturally fell on the clan, as the Sharingan appeared in Kyubi's eyes, and when some ninja from the clan formed a faction wanting to coup the village, the situation worsened.

Rhandson_D:yes it was, senju tobirama hatred he passed it for his two students forced the uchiha to work their life away suppressing the trouble the village leaders caused with force as that is what police represents law through force, hokage after hokage did all they could to suppress uchiha development through all means necessary, if the uchiha was not so restricted by plot they would have killed their suppressors and taken everything for themselfs but author has all the power in the end
Febfew
FebfewLv11

It's pathetic to see people defending Tobirama and Hiruzen with a thousand useless arguments. Hashirama himself was against what Tobirama did regarding the police. And Hiruzen didn't do anything decent when Danzo tried to kill him after Minato's death. In fact Hiruzen was so incompetent, Danzo so crazy and Itachi so blind that if it weren't for the script Konoha would have been eliminated with absolute certainty after the massacre of the Uchiha clan. The argument is very simple and logical: remember the succession of public demonstrations of weakness and massive losses after Sakumo's suicide, the third war, Minato's death and the massacre caused by the Kyuubi, add the Uchiha massacre and Konoha is weaker than Iwa and Kumo. Because of minor things, nations invade others in the real world, Kishimoto created a volcano in the script in favor of Konoha and even put some logic into this bizarre and stupid collective attitude.

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