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SnoopS
SnoopSLv55yr
2019-05-13 03:20

The Mech Touch is one of the best original novel in this site, sadly it was become worst and worst. The story itself is interesting, the writing is a solid one, it is one of the best writing quality I have ever seen in original novel. So whats the problem? At first the story progress is slow but detailed about the MC, it was understandable as the author try to paint the world around MC. But what happen if that keep happening for 500 chapter? Then you got slow, full of bs and useless story or filler you may call. The story development become more and more slow, and you got a turtle pace story. Mob character get so much attention for 10-30 chapter and then disappear as they either dead, or become useless for the MC. Then you may think, why dont the author cut the filler, focus on the MC and stop making the story longer and longer than necessary? My answer, greed, the author is full of greed for your SS. Not it is wrong, not my problem, my problem is the time you wasted reading this useless filler story that got little to no impact to the MC and core story! You hope the story progress but for 3 days or 6 chapter and more it still stuck to that one battle with almost no relation to the MC, author keep making detailed BS of this mob character A who killed mob character B, C, D, E, F and so on so on. And it was not the first time he do it! While he keep making this BS nobody care, the character building become abandoned, many important side character got little to no story, and a mob character got more than 10 chapter, "u mad bro?" Another problem of this "detailed filler" is it wasnt even that interesting or correct enough, the chain command in the military is so bad and stupid the MC's country should be destroyed long ago. The mob character got to many explanation, you start to think maybe he become the next side chara, and then bam, no word anymore. Another time there is a filler full of mech battle, wait not that kind of mech battle, I mean what pilot in mech battle think in the fight, it wasnt even that interesting or important, and it got so many explanation! Like the reader care about that kind of BS! The author only want to increase word count like greedy chinese webnovel author, so he got more SS. Author build so many background BS, the story become so full of background story that got no explanation or attention for a long long long time! And he keeps adding more! The MC unfinished problem at chapter is maybe 1 or 2, but at chapter 500 he got 10 or more. There is no focus in the story, author is not just greedy about SS, but greedy about all kind of story development. It become to chaotic because of all the filler! This novel is a HONEY TRAP! It have excellent writing, but chaotic story development. You may read and think how good the story is at first, but as you go, and read far above 200 chapter, it become snail pace and full of filler. The problem is it was very subtle, and when you realize it you already read far to many chapter, therefore a honey trap, it was a good story until you realize it is a trash. Dont believe me? Read it yourself! Waste you time, I dont care. I only rant here because the author never read comment.

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Tomoyuki
TomoyukiLv6

Filler =/= info dump.

SnoopS
SnoopSLv5

have you read it? bah, I dont care anyway, waste your time, or anybody time who believe that statement.

Tomoyuki:Filler =/= info dump.
Tomoyuki
TomoyukiLv6

I think you misunderstand me. People tend to mis-use the term filler. Filler refers to non-canonical material that was not in the original source. This is the original source and therefore canonical. But now people misuse the term filler to refer to anything they don't want to read, and anything they think is boring. That's not filler. Most of the time what people refer to filler is info dump because the author dumps a whole wall of text on the readers to explain the world even though it might seem irrelevant, dry or tedious. But that doesn't make it a filler, because fillers are non-canonical scenes created solely for an adaptation.

SnoopS:have you read it? bah, I dont care anyway, waste your time, or anybody time who believe that statement.
SnoopS
SnoopSLv5

This is based on my understanding and quick search on google: "story filler is unnecessary text that might come between two scenes that move the plot forward. It can take the form of a sentence, a paragraph, dialogue (both internal and external) or even a whole chapter. “Unnecessary” mean that if you were to take out that piece of writing, the story would not lose continuity and the reader wouldn’t be confused. And you basically can take a whole chapter or even dozen chapters of Mech Touch story, and still understand what going on! Many reader also point this out in the comment section for long time. In my opinion, info dump is just a "good" way to say filler, which mean basically same thing. At anyway, the filler or "info dump" you said, is just a bunch of thing to prolong the story to got more stone, and create story not for the sake of the story itself, but the sake of money. Therefore author already forsake the point of making a great story, and instead make a mediocre, money driven story.

Tomoyuki:I think you misunderstand me. People tend to mis-use the term filler. Filler refers to non-canonical material that was not in the original source. This is the original source and therefore canonical. But now people misuse the term filler to refer to anything they don't want to read, and anything they think is boring. That's not filler. Most of the time what people refer to filler is info dump because the author dumps a whole wall of text on the readers to explain the world even though it might seem irrelevant, dry or tedious. But that doesn't make it a filler, because fillers are non-canonical scenes created solely for an adaptation.
Tomoyuki
TomoyukiLv6

Info dump is a bad thing. Weird, when I Google filler, it tells me it's non canonical content that is not from the original source material. Well, info dumps are bad, boring and tedious to read.

SnoopS:This is based on my understanding and quick search on google: "story filler is unnecessary text that might come between two scenes that move the plot forward. It can take the form of a sentence, a paragraph, dialogue (both internal and external) or even a whole chapter. “Unnecessary” mean that if you were to take out that piece of writing, the story would not lose continuity and the reader wouldn’t be confused. And you basically can take a whole chapter or even dozen chapters of Mech Touch story, and still understand what going on! Many reader also point this out in the comment section for long time. In my opinion, info dump is just a "good" way to say filler, which mean basically same thing. At anyway, the filler or "info dump" you said, is just a bunch of thing to prolong the story to got more stone, and create story not for the sake of the story itself, but the sake of money. Therefore author already forsake the point of making a great story, and instead make a mediocre, money driven story.
Kii
KiiLv13

You're right! This IS a honey trap!

knightofnei4vr
knightofnei4vrLv3

What are you talking about? I’ll admit that this happens sometimes but it’s to provide context and details I’ve never seen six chapters of a mech fight or other POV (this rarely ever happens not much POV change it’s more like ves telling us what’s happening) and I do admit the only character I remember from this story is ves ( And the major his dad mom and a few others)

knightofnei4vr
knightofnei4vrLv3

Really honey trap you do know if you’re so butthurt there are novel black markets for novels like these right hint hint free hint

knightofnei4vr
knightofnei4vrLv3

As for filler and info dumps first off info dumps are thin and spread through many chapters meaning when they do happen I rarely notice second of all where’s this filler you speak name one chapter don’t just sling that around and not provide evidence and don’t go “well this chapter with character development is filler nothing cool is happening” that’s not filler that’s to make people more invested and attentive to the story mi dude

SnoopS
SnoopSLv5

if you don't know what I'm talking about you either are ignorant or downright stupid. Those who read this novel to at least ch 400 know how stupid the fillers are, there are many who actually complaint in the comment, mech fight is the tool of word count, everybody who read and have brain knows this. Saying "I’ve never seen six chapters of a mech fight or other POV" and then said "this rarely ever happens" show how your argument counter each other. Go back to school, please.

knightofnei4vr:What are you talking about? I’ll admit that this happens sometimes but it’s to provide context and details I’ve never seen six chapters of a mech fight or other POV (this rarely ever happens not much POV change it’s more like ves telling us what’s happening) and I do admit the only character I remember from this story is ves ( And the major his dad mom and a few others)
SnoopS
SnoopSLv5

You are one ignorant and brainless people. Read my review seriously, I said this whole novel is wasting my time or in your case, wasting people who have brain time. If those who still reading this novel are people like you then go ahead, as I said in the review, waste your time, nobody cares!

knightofnei4vr:Really honey trap you do know if you’re so butthurt there are novel black markets for novels like these right hint hint free hint
SnoopS
SnoopSLv5

this comment is the epitome of ignorant. Maybe right now the people who still read this novel are all like this. I know you have a problem with your intelligence, shown by your incoherent sentence. But saying the fillers are thin and spread is just plain ignorance, maybe you never read a real novel then. If so then try a real novel for a change, maybe it can help your knowledge. You don't need the heavy one, start from easy like Harry Potter then move to something like a science fiction novel (real novel not web novel). Then if you can go to the non-fiction one, maybe then you will know what I talk about. Now, however, it's like I'm arguing to a baby.

knightofnei4vr:As for filler and info dumps first off info dumps are thin and spread through many chapters meaning when they do happen I rarely notice second of all where’s this filler you speak name one chapter don’t just sling that around and not provide evidence and don’t go “well this chapter with character development is filler nothing cool is happening” that’s not filler that’s to make people more invested and attentive to the story mi dude
SorcererCat
SorcererCatLv5

Dude I LOVE your replies to these people. LMAO!!!

SnoopS:this comment is the epitome of ignorant. Maybe right now the people who still read this novel are all like this. I know you have a problem with your intelligence, shown by your incoherent sentence. But saying the fillers are thin and spread is just plain ignorance, maybe you never read a real novel then. If so then try a real novel for a change, maybe it can help your knowledge. You don't need the heavy one, start from easy like Harry Potter then move to something like a science fiction novel (real novel not web novel). Then if you can go to the non-fiction one, maybe then you will know what I talk about. Now, however, it's like I'm arguing to a baby.
karlique
karliqueLv10

After 800+ chapters, I admit this book is filler filled, too much background talk and snail paced development. If only the author could fast pace the story a littel bit more.

Grandorus
GrandorusLv12

The people who read this novel like myself skip 90% of the Vandal arc filler. The current arc has mech some design. I do not feel the need to read the missed 400 chapters to catchup, I do not believe they were written by same person.

SnoopS:this comment is the epitome of ignorant. Maybe right now the people who still read this novel are all like this. I know you have a problem with your intelligence, shown by your incoherent sentence. But saying the fillers are thin and spread is just plain ignorance, maybe you never read a real novel then. If so then try a real novel for a change, maybe it can help your knowledge. You don't need the heavy one, start from easy like Harry Potter then move to something like a science fiction novel (real novel not web novel). Then if you can go to the non-fiction one, maybe then you will know what I talk about. Now, however, it's like I'm arguing to a baby.
Red_Goerge
Red_GoergeLv13

Who’s got time to read fan mail. Hehe. Author to busy living life inbetween releasing chapters 5-6 hours a day. The story is getting a lot better. As you have pointed out it’s one of the best original novels. Having to skip a few paragraphs of repetitive info dumps isn’t to bad with practice.(filler=side story. Info dumps are world building and I agree they should never be placed inbetween talking or repetitive as hell. A year later this story is....Time well wasted. Don’t expect author will ever cater to us. If he did Ves would already be face punching mechs. Problem? Fix it. Another problem. Fix it... “FUCKING BORING BRO...This is Sifi, not a Wuxia were every problem get solved within the next chapter with face punching. So what if Ves has 10 or more problems built up, it adds flavour to the story. 😎 Greed for SS? Great point... Also can you even bother naming 10 real books for us all to read better than this? Seriously we all would love to read better stories Or is Harry Porter your only recommendation. Whats with all the insults based around intelligence...Bro...who’s the childish baby. Don’t bother responding kid.

SnoopS
SnoopSLv5

Oww we got a butthurt person over here, do you need me to give you some ointment for your hurt butt? Btw, I never see a legitimate reason for how good "The Mech Touch" in your comment, only some words defending the author like some crazed fan. Also for the "10 real books to read better than this", I seriously pity you if you ask me like really I feel pity. I mean you can search for all kinds of novels sold offline or online many times better than this, but asking me something better than Harry Potter showed how little your knowledge of the world of literature. But because I really feel pity, try to read one of the best novel in the world, The Lord of the Rings. The problem with "problems built up" is much more complex as the way Exlor the author use it is very immature, while in a real novel some problem uses it to grow the character and advance the plot, while he just uses it mostly to prolong the story. But I don't expect you to understand it since it seems you don't read that many books to understand it. And importantly, I see how you said "time well spend", well if you like how to spend your time reading low tier books, why should I dissuade you otherwise. Enjoy your time man, also thx for calling me a "kid", as feeling young is what everybody should appreciate, no matter the age.

Red_Goerge:Who’s got time to read fan mail. Hehe. Author to busy living life inbetween releasing chapters 5-6 hours a day. The story is getting a lot better. As you have pointed out it’s one of the best original novels. Having to skip a few paragraphs of repetitive info dumps isn’t to bad with practice.(filler=side story. Info dumps are world building and I agree they should never be placed inbetween talking or repetitive as hell. A year later this story is....Time well wasted. Don’t expect author will ever cater to us. If he did Ves would already be face punching mechs. Problem? Fix it. Another problem. Fix it... “FUCKING BORING BRO...This is Sifi, not a Wuxia were every problem get solved within the next chapter with face punching. So what if Ves has 10 or more problems built up, it adds flavour to the story. 😎 Greed for SS? Great point... Also can you even bother naming 10 real books for us all to read better than this? Seriously we all would love to read better stories Or is Harry Porter your only recommendation. Whats with all the insults based around intelligence...Bro...who’s the childish baby. Don’t bother responding kid.
Red_Goerge
Red_GoergeLv13

I just didn’t think your review was any good. Just some ramblings really. Your comments to others was just as bad. Figured you’d come back to lash at me. Good job btw naming another book everyone has either read or watched...got anything new? Not for me. For the people. This review 2/10 at best. Peace ✌️

SnoopS:Oww we got a butthurt person over here, do you need me to give you some ointment for your hurt butt? Btw, I never see a legitimate reason for how good "The Mech Touch" in your comment, only some words defending the author like some crazed fan. Also for the "10 real books to read better than this", I seriously pity you if you ask me like really I feel pity. I mean you can search for all kinds of novels sold offline or online many times better than this, but asking me something better than Harry Potter showed how little your knowledge of the world of literature. But because I really feel pity, try to read one of the best novel in the world, The Lord of the Rings. The problem with "problems built up" is much more complex as the way Exlor the author use it is very immature, while in a real novel some problem uses it to grow the character and advance the plot, while he just uses it mostly to prolong the story. But I don't expect you to understand it since it seems you don't read that many books to understand it. And importantly, I see how you said "time well spend", well if you like how to spend your time reading low tier books, why should I dissuade you otherwise. Enjoy your time man, also thx for calling me a "kid", as feeling young is what everybody should appreciate, no matter the age.
SnoopS
SnoopSLv5

Wow so you think someone who watch LOTR already understand the original novel? Just wow, you doesn't seem appreciate real novel then, I bet anything I told at this point will be just another "get me another novel" comment from you. If my review is bad, your reply is definitely a trash one, I dont even remember you defending the novel, only some superficial argument about author, questionable perspective about the novel genre, and some insult telling me a kid. And now you just replying my review is bad 2/10 with no context why is bad other than "rambling". Also telling how LOTR is not worth nothing because everybody already watch it. Your ignorance and pretentiousness is off the chart, I will not recommend other book because a SANE man can find it in the internet. You obviously just a living manchild with no argument worth discussing whatsoever. And for that I recommend you read not a novel but a self improving book.

Red_Goerge:I just didn’t think your review was any good. Just some ramblings really. Your comments to others was just as bad. Figured you’d come back to lash at me. Good job btw naming another book everyone has either read or watched...got anything new? Not for me. For the people. This review 2/10 at best. Peace ✌️
Red_Goerge
Red_GoergeLv13

Haha.. figures calling you Kid bothered you. Both Potter & Lotr have been out for decades. Who’s not read either of these kids books. Yea no point once you watch it. Read it then watch it maybe. I read the top liked reviews and yea.. yours was the worst of em. You come back here to reply to almost everyone unless they pat you on the back(basically one hater). You insult those who reply and everyone who reads The Mech Touch. If your smart you’ll just delete your review if not.. everyone can see how childish you are by reading all the comments. Time to grow up. Reading a self improvement book? thank you I’ll borrow yours when your finished it

SnoopS:Wow so you think someone who watch LOTR already understand the original novel? Just wow, you doesn't seem appreciate real novel then, I bet anything I told at this point will be just another "get me another novel" comment from you. If my review is bad, your reply is definitely a trash one, I dont even remember you defending the novel, only some superficial argument about author, questionable perspective about the novel genre, and some insult telling me a kid. And now you just replying my review is bad 2/10 with no context why is bad other than "rambling". Also telling how LOTR is not worth nothing because everybody already watch it. Your ignorance and pretentiousness is off the chart, I will not recommend other book because a SANE man can find it in the internet. You obviously just a living manchild with no argument worth discussing whatsoever. And for that I recommend you read not a novel but a self improving book.
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chromaticleaf
chromaticleafLv15

I rather enjoy this story. Its more of a slow burn in terms of pacing, which can understandably be a bit frustrating. I'm actually not a super big fan of the actiony bits where Ves gets personally involved, but I understand their importance within the context of the story. I started reading this story because I was looking for something a bit more relaxed compared to the normal fare that I read. The MC often has many conflicting goals so it often feels like he's dragging his feet a bit, but I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing. I don't believe its ever been stated that Ves is a super driven person, so bouts of procrastination aren't uncommon and serve to make him seem more realistic. I don't think said dragging of feet has ever been particularly egregious, but at the same time I binged 350+ of the chapters at once so my perspective may be a bit skewed as a result. Since I've caught up to the most recent chapters, the story's been updating at a pace of two per day, so I think the updating pace is pretty stable. I think the supporting cast is fine, but the story is definitely very focused on Ves himself. We know the names of other characters and a bit of their backstories/motivations, but we don't go super in depth about them. I would say this is an area that could be improved upon, but not something that really detracts from the overall quality of the story itself. As for the World Background, we've been given glimpses into the universe as a whole outside of the small bubble the story's been primarily focused on. As a result, we know there is a greater universe with other planets/characters/aliens out there waiting to be explored. From my recollection, I don't believe there's been too many lore dumps. As things become relevant, Ves (and we as readers) learn more about them, but never really to a truly overwhelming extent. All in all, I think this is a fun story that's trying to be a bit different from the normal fare on this site. From that context, I believe the story I've given is fair. There's room for improvement, but nothing that detracts significantly from its overall quality. I think if you enjoy Superstars of Tomorrow this will be something you might enjoy as well.

BourneShadow
BourneShadowLv15

*I have read every single chapter up to 1736, skipping and skimming nothing* Slight inclusion of very mild spoilers that mean nothing out of context )) First, I have to say that the critics of the Vandal arc aren’t wrong. When I first read about the conscription, I assumed a time skip would be employed at some point. When they arrived at the Aeon corona system, I assumed time would be sped up on the planet rather than slowing down- this seemed like a great chance to accelerate the war ark. Nevertheless, the MC grew a lot during the arc. It is a bit of a stretch, but this is shaping up to be a 5000 chapter story at this rate. Dedicating 600+ chapters to preliminarily shape the MCs character from a timid indoctrinated weakling into a prototype of a business leader able to survive in a cutthroat world has at least some merit. Before you discount me completely- yes, I agree, there was some ‘false advertisement’. Being disconnected from the system for so long was counter to what most system novels do and many fellow readers will be justifiably annoyed at that. Me? I have no issue. Whilst I love your standard system trope chewing gum novels as much as the next guy sometimes, this isn’t that. In one of the recent chapters, the author described serving in the army as a means, not an end. That is the same thing I have to say for my perspective on his usage of the system. Whilst I cannot speak for the author, what I see from his work is an amalgamation. In mech touch speak, the design seed of the novel has taken fractured spiritual pieces from many different genres and used them to craft its own unique identity. Many people comment about the novel not conforming to expectations from various genres. Well... why should it? In webnovel speak, why continue to define a story by the same tags it started with if the story has come to a point where they are no longer the best choice? What if Ves loses the Metal Scroll for good? I’m sure the readers will riot(I’m sure the thought of introducing this plot element gives the author a headache for this reason) , but my point is that what if it makes the story better for it? Unlike so many people saying how the story has deteriorated, I have actually read the whole thing word for word. Whilst I agree that there were times where I was weary with parts of the story, I have never been disappointed. When ves returns from war, the Story picks up and becomes so much more phenomenal. The start of the new mech generation and his new mechs with their expanding repertoire of abilities are increasingly interesting to read about Tbh,I really tip my hat to the author. Perhaps the difference between phase tech mechs and mastercraft mechs are a subtle jibe at the non conformity of this story to cookie cutter ideologies. I’m sure any mildly intelligent person can think up 100 arguments against anything they wish. ‘Mech designers are unstable, hence justifying the MC making retarded decisions that help the plot’ I’ll take that excuse at face value. Why not? It makes for an interesting plot point. ‘the novel is so much about business but the business aspect isn’t realistic’ I’m entertained reading about it. I’m not a business magnate myself, nor do I expect the author to be too perfect? ‘What’s with cultivation? Why doesn’t it work like this or like that?’ Spirituality is obscure. Can the author make it more obvious? Does a massive pirate ship full of spirituality users not hammer home the point that only the strongest organisations really use it? Whilst Ves always calls it his unique advantage, there have been many hints in the story that he is well aware that he is not unique. He is aware that he is reinventing the wheel in some areas. He chooses not to think about that because it is not helpful to him. Many things are inherently open to debate. The author is building a universe. Where’s the fun if it’s perfect? I encourage fellow readers to read everything. This story is worth it. Enjoy!!

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