tyche_nk:try reading to chapter 120 or so, it starts getting good there

JPNovelFan:“Yeah just wait til chapter 423, things just get better from there!” Bro you sound so fking stupid telling people to commit to anything over 100 chapters. It’s the same as telling someone the story gets better after several hundred. The time commitment and loss of brain cells in that first 120+ chapters is so wasted. If a story needs probably 2-3 hours of straight reading before it become remotely entertaining, then it needs better editing and writing. Especially when you have to pay to unlock chapters halfway through what you’re recommending. You’re so dumb.

KGB_Chan:this is due to something called character development and for it to seem natural it needs to happen over a large span of time to be realistic but I guess your attention span is a bit to small to read.

Liam_Kelley_6064:Have you ever read an actual novel? Your comment is so dense it’s nearly pulling me in its self absorbed orbit. Character “development” you know what development means right? It means taking something that already exists, an interesting mc, and developing them into something more complex. Developing is an action and not a state of being. The character is either good or bad no matter how they are developed and if they are bad from the beginning then it’s a waste of time to read when you could very simply make them interesting from the start. Literally every main character ever from every light novel is interesting from the beginning and develops over time. Not, boring/nothing at the beginning and something sort of like a developed character hours into the novel. You don’t need to read an entire volume of slime, jjk, hxh, overlord, etc to find the characters interesting. That’s why people continue reading them. I ask you, why would the characters not be interesting from the beginning? Why would they only become interesting hours into there story? How does this delayed interest positively effect the reader and the author? As it see it, people like this person drop there novels and readers are upset there time is being wasted. People who have your opinions of character development don’t deserve to read novels in my opinion. Go read a light novel and come back when you know what a good story is.

Nullity_Marrionete:I kind of agree with both of you but I don't think what you said really applies to all things. not old fictional characters and even real people are actually interesting for the start matter of fact their mindset could be completely bland like being the hero of Justice or something So I kind of agree with the first guy saying that character development should happen overlaps of time. along the fact that his mind say in seeing as character development isn't even that different from yours so I don't even see the difference from you and him and those terms so therefore should you be reading novels?

Liam_Kelley_6064:Please, from your centralist point of view. Name a single novel where the main character is not interesting at the very start. Do know why none exist? Because starting at nothing is nothing and starting with something is something. Anyone starting with nothing, no direction, no theme, no relatability, etc. is not a novel but an incomplete thought. if it were right to start as a blank slate/degraded then why would the novel only get good over 100 chapters in? There is a reason these novels are web novels, akin to a personal project, rather than a published work which has been worked on by multiple editors and reviewed by a publisher. If you can’t see the difference in out arguments then I suggest you either re read until you can understand or move on. There is no point bloating the discussion with your ignorant perspective. I don’t mean that in an offensive way, you are contributing nothing but asking the question “what are you guys talking about” with many more words.

elementallord:I don't like your aggressive way with the debate, but I agree with you.

tyche_nk:try reading to chapter 120 or so, it starts getting good there

Liam_Kelley_6064:Please, from your centralist point of view. Name a single novel where the main character is not interesting at the very start. Do know why none exist? Because starting at nothing is nothing and starting with something is something. Anyone starting with nothing, no direction, no theme, no relatability, etc. is not a novel but an incomplete thought. if it were right to start as a blank slate/degraded then why would the novel only get good over 100 chapters in? There is a reason these novels are web novels, akin to a personal project, rather than a published work which has been worked on by multiple editors and reviewed by a publisher. If you can’t see the difference in out arguments then I suggest you either re read until you can understand or move on. There is no point bloating the discussion with your ignorant perspective. I don’t mean that in an offensive way, you are contributing nothing but asking the question “what are you guys talking about” with many more words.

Liam_Kelley_6064:Please, from your centralist point of view. Name a single novel where the main character is not interesting at the very start. Do know why none exist? Because starting at nothing is nothing and starting with something is something. Anyone starting with nothing, no direction, no theme, no relatability, etc. is not a novel but an incomplete thought. if it were right to start as a blank slate/degraded then why would the novel only get good over 100 chapters in? There is a reason these novels are web novels, akin to a personal project, rather than a published work which has been worked on by multiple editors and reviewed by a publisher. If you can’t see the difference in out arguments then I suggest you either re read until you can understand or move on. There is no point bloating the discussion with your ignorant perspective. I don’t mean that in an offensive way, you are contributing nothing but asking the question “what are you guys talking about” with many more words.

KGB_Chan:this is due to something called character development and for it to seem natural it needs to happen over a large span of time to be realistic but I guess your attention span is a bit to small to read.

Liam_Kelley_6064:Please, from your centralist point of view. Name a single novel where the main character is not interesting at the very start. Do know why none exist? Because starting at nothing is nothing and starting with something is something. Anyone starting with nothing, no direction, no theme, no relatability, etc. is not a novel but an incomplete thought. if it were right to start as a blank slate/degraded then why would the novel only get good over 100 chapters in? There is a reason these novels are web novels, akin to a personal project, rather than a published work which has been worked on by multiple editors and reviewed by a publisher. If you can’t see the difference in out arguments then I suggest you either re read until you can understand or move on. There is no point bloating the discussion with your ignorant perspective. I don’t mean that in an offensive way, you are contributing nothing but asking the question “what are you guys talking about” with many more words.

KunPengx:I listened to folks and read the authors previous book(sword god in a magical world). Trust me it did get a bit better after 500 chapters or so for a hundred chapters. Then it became a mess, so I just can't bring myself to trust the fans of this author. I forced myself until the end of that novel only to get an anticlimactic end. Action in his stories is good but the plot and character development is terrible.

Nullity_Marrionete:Oh, never mind I thought your comment said “ name a novel of which the main character is interesting at the beginning” my mistake. But what I mean is that character development should still happen overtime and a persons mentality should definitely change after multiple events, and should be far from staying the same for example tanjiro from demon slayer. It’s a decent overall however it would be far and I mean far from peak fiction like LOTM.

dowjayman:I don't understand why anime and light novels are used as examples... I agree with your point but I wouldn't say light novels are real novels either.

KGB_Chan:this is due to something called character development and for it to seem natural it needs to happen over a large span of time to be realistic but I guess your attention span is a bit to small to read.

Nullity_Marrionete:I kind of agree with both of you but I don't think what you said really applies to all things. not old fictional characters and even real people are actually interesting for the start matter of fact their mindset could be completely bland like being the hero of Justice or something So I kind of agree with the first guy saying that character development should happen overlaps of time. along the fact that his mind say in seeing as character development isn't even that different from yours so I don't even see the difference from you and him and those terms so therefore should you be reading novels?

Nullity_Marrionete:eh, everyone has different opinions so although I may disagree with you I can also kind of understand what you're saying in some sense, light novels are really just novels.... personally ( except light novels are simply just way more overpowered! )