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2020-09-19 22:21

Demon’s Virtue This story divides me. It has really strong points but also glaring weaknesses. But the weaknesses are to blatant to give this story a positive review. The good: 1. The characters feel 3 dimensional. They feel alive and are not the simple dummies that you would expect, to make the main character look good or to give him a weakness. Even the main character does not feel generic, wether the reader likes his attitude or not. 2. Some of the concepts in the story are deep and well thought through. For example: It is carefully explained how the magic cast is working and why a mage gets an edge over another. The bad: 1. The power creep is a major issue that plagues this novel. The power levels feel off, because of poor writing. System novels have the advantage to explain a structured and comprehensive feeling for strength. The motion of levels is used. But it is not used in comprehensive manner at all. Enemies seem glaringly overpowered for no apparent reason, coming out of nowhere. Godly characters are found across the street. Forcing the main character to use his "cheat" time and time again, even though the main character seems to be an abomination himself. The main character gets overloaded with divine abilities that would make every person in the world exceptional by having one of those. And the main character still feels weak, because of the inconsistent world building. Yes, the main character is told that he seems broken by his friends, but the feeling is not conveyed accordingly, as his enemies are even stronger for no reason. And no. It is not even close. They literally stomp him in the ground. I think it is supposed to create suspense or anything but it does not. It just feels off. It destroys the world building. Example: MC and his children try to sleep in an inn for 1 night. But nope. The town is created by the devil itself and the 7 deadly sins demons are already waving. A random chief guard is a hidden expert, that can stop time and absolutely trash mc. A random murder suspect is an undead overlord that mc can not even touch and gets toyed with despite being in his third major power up. Yes. The combination that the main character managed to pull off in each evolution step, was probably not pulled off in the history of the world. It is supposed to be that good. But nope. Does not make any difference. 2. There is barely any storyline. As alot of novels on this site this novel does not follow a typical western storyline. Instead it forces unlikely events to force the plot in a certain direction time and time again. The story is glued by random events that forces the main character to act in certain way. It loses me here. Why make such complex characters to simply make them follow the life goal to "get stronger"? The characters do not seem to have another motivation, as at least the main character is constrained on this goal to protect his loved ones. As i have already said the powerlevels are off at the same time. It makes the story feel shallow. In the beginning the story is told by sequence of highly unlikely events that should not even happen once in a lifetime. And it goes on. Nothing is foreshadowed. It just happens, by literally taking a walk. As the characters are not motivated by tangible goals the story writes itself as a slice of life. That is fine, if it is well done. But so many plots are started and simply forgetten. We do not even have a clue how much time has passed in the later chapters. At some point the progress just halts, by filling the story by unimportant trivial matters. Example 1: His children are barely getting any character development at all. We do not even know how they are progressing in their levels or what their classes that the had obtained a 100 chapters ago are even doing. Even though they are supposed to be overpowered themselves. Do they even know how to fight? They have not fought a monster by themself in 250+ chapters. Yes, they get new abilities, but progression stops there. We do laterwards not even know how old they are. Example 2: The main character likes to read. But it does not feel that he has gotten any knowledge, as the reader is flooded with trivial matters without knowing anything about the world. It is not even mentioned, that his language skill is progressing. 3. The story feels slow and dragged out, although having no substance already. It neglects its strong points, but it weirdly puts focus on complete trivial matters that should be mentioned in a time skip: Interactions with his familiy. It is fine, but it gets redundant as the same interaction seems to be repeated time and time again. Training without getting stronger. I mean it that way. Every single action of the main character is explained. Like sitting there and feeling nature. Getting new abilities that make no difference on the scale as already mentioned. The main character is overloaded with divine abilities, but after introducing them they are simply forgetten shortly afterwards. Example: One of the main theme of the story is that the main character is able to produce life like limbs, figures and so on. But in over 100 chapters the main character has not gotten a single skill points to show his progress. It is also not mentioned that he is progressing at all. Like what? Example 2: Mc was supposed to be an expert in water and ice magic. He literally faces a foe that is slippery like an eel (random undead overlord) and should therefore by frozen and he does simply not make use of his main magical powers??? Showing that the main character is irratic. Threatening random people to show that he is a big bad demon. Happens literally every chapter. At the same time highly crucial concepts of the story are barely touched. This ist he final nail in the coffin for me: The world building is really lacking. It is barely explained that the world is supposed to be the japanese hero and demon king theme, as it was never explained. That these concepts are not just titles but literally positions of power. You do not get to be the hero by being good, but the hero is already born being godly as he is the hero. Another example: There are royal monsters of exceptional power at the absolute top of the world. But we do not how many of them even exist. Why is there a balance between good and bad. Why is the hero even needed if there seems to be a balance so that humans are not getting wiped out? Mc also just happens to come across two of them in the span of 1 year… Another example: We do not know anything about the geography of the kingdoms. Is there a demon kingdom? Is it one the same plane of existence? How many human kingdoms are there. We do not know anything about the races the inhabit the world. How many are there? How are their living conditions and their relations with each other? You clearly do not have to mention every race that is supposed to inhabit the world…but just scraping the introduction and then writing ten chapters how the mc constructs training weapons for his children instead that are not even using them, seems really really off to me. Another example: The main character is a collector imp that collects trophies. It should be a major concept as the world uses a class system and a class is singlehandedly the most important aspect of a person bound by the rules of the world. But we do no even why he collects trophies even after changing his class, even though it is his major class ability. It seems that the mc just needed a storage ability and conveniently got one. Another major theme (plot hole) in the novel are divine cards, that give the holder divine abilities. But as previously mentioned they are not explained at all. They are just "there" and easily accessible for the main character, even though we later get the information that some people would start a war to get their hands on 1 of them. The main villains of the story got their power by using these cards!!! How can they not be explained at all? And again i have to mention major plot holes: mc manages to lay his hands on a major arcana card that allows him to become a royal, because the previous royal was weakened and therefore a pushover. Really? No strong noble monster even had the idea to do the same thing even though they are supposed to be that much stronger and older than him and having human intelligence? It is mentioned that the mc can not even use this card, as he is that far off on the power scale. We do not even know how the mana system works. It is said that the MC has alot of it. How can he not as being the godly imp. But how much mana does a regular mage have? How many spells can you cast? How long does it take fort he mana bar to refill. Does it refill by sleeping? Are there mana potions? Not metioned at all.

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DiceVR
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Hey there! I appreciate the criticism! It's appreciated and noted! First of all, I know that my world-building is really weak in this novel, and I really do have the tendency to focus on rather trivial matters, but I have a hard time suddenly switching the tone that I developed for this novel, so I'm not sure if it's really going to change at any point within this. At least not suddenly, I might develop things a bit more into this direction as time goes on, though. I was definitely already aware of these things. (Also, with the Devil-Town Arc at the start, that was me still trying to find the way I wanted to write this novel, and for that part I ended up going with the Shonen-Anime trope of "Wherever the MC goes, some high-tier crazy sh*t is going down", which probably wasn't the best choice. Still kind of doing that in the later chapters, but I feel like it's lesser than during that whole arc) And also, since there are a few things you seemed interested in that I wanted to clear up, here we go: 1. The number of the Royal Monsters is the same as the number of cards of the Major Arcana there are. Each Royal Monster corresponds to one card of the Tarot's Major Arcana, hence there are 22 of them. I thought I made that clear enough, but I guess not! Maybe I'll go back and try to add a specific explanation for that in one of the earlier chapters! 2. While the evolutionary path of the MC certainly is unique, 'Unique' doesn't necessarily mean 'Overpowered'. Obviously, to an extent, Eiro is overpowered as hell, but it's not because of his evolutions directly but because of the powers he built around them. 3. The 'good' and 'bad' sides have a rough power-balance, but that balance only exists because of the existence of the Hero in that world. 4. What the Cards really are is a thing that not even the people of the world there know, just that it came from the 'Arcane Dealer'. What they are will be explained at some point, but it's an important part of the plot and it can't just be randomly explained at any point, so sorry about that! 5. 'The World', the royal whose card Eiro got, was sealed in a special place where nobody was able to even find out that this royal was sealed there, not even other royals. So of course, Noble Monsters wouldn't know it either. In conclusion... Trust me, I'm more aware of all these plotholes and mistakes than anyone else, and I hope to be able to go through the whole novel at some point and edit it to make a lot of things make a lot more sense and simply make it better, but at this point in time that is simply not a viable option. Just know that a few of the things that you complained about are things that I am working on fixing and resolving. For example, I want to focus more on Eiro's different abilities, I want to show more really strong characters that show that Eiro isn't a completely overwhelmingly OP entity in this world yet, and I want to possibly try to get into a direction where I can properly show of this world and the creatures that live in it, as I've already been trying to do a little bit more lately. Again, thanks for the criticism! I hope you won't discard this novel completely yet, though! :D

DiceVR
DiceVRAuthor

Also, I said 'appreciate' twice in the first line, tf is wrong with me?

DiceVR:Hey there! I appreciate the criticism! It's appreciated and noted! First of all, I know that my world-building is really weak in this novel, and I really do have the tendency to focus on rather trivial matters, but I have a hard time suddenly switching the tone that I developed for this novel, so I'm not sure if it's really going to change at any point within this. At least not suddenly, I might develop things a bit more into this direction as time goes on, though. I was definitely already aware of these things. (Also, with the Devil-Town Arc at the start, that was me still trying to find the way I wanted to write this novel, and for that part I ended up going with the Shonen-Anime trope of "Wherever the MC goes, some high-tier crazy sh*t is going down", which probably wasn't the best choice. Still kind of doing that in the later chapters, but I feel like it's lesser than during that whole arc) And also, since there are a few things you seemed interested in that I wanted to clear up, here we go: 1. The number of the Royal Monsters is the same as the number of cards of the Major Arcana there are. Each Royal Monster corresponds to one card of the Tarot's Major Arcana, hence there are 22 of them. I thought I made that clear enough, but I guess not! Maybe I'll go back and try to add a specific explanation for that in one of the earlier chapters! 2. While the evolutionary path of the MC certainly is unique, 'Unique' doesn't necessarily mean 'Overpowered'. Obviously, to an extent, Eiro is overpowered as hell, but it's not because of his evolutions directly but because of the powers he built around them. 3. The 'good' and 'bad' sides have a rough power-balance, but that balance only exists because of the existence of the Hero in that world. 4. What the Cards really are is a thing that not even the people of the world there know, just that it came from the 'Arcane Dealer'. What they are will be explained at some point, but it's an important part of the plot and it can't just be randomly explained at any point, so sorry about that! 5. 'The World', the royal whose card Eiro got, was sealed in a special place where nobody was able to even find out that this royal was sealed there, not even other royals. So of course, Noble Monsters wouldn't know it either. In conclusion... Trust me, I'm more aware of all these plotholes and mistakes than anyone else, and I hope to be able to go through the whole novel at some point and edit it to make a lot of things make a lot more sense and simply make it better, but at this point in time that is simply not a viable option. Just know that a few of the things that you complained about are things that I am working on fixing and resolving. For example, I want to focus more on Eiro's different abilities, I want to show more really strong characters that show that Eiro isn't a completely overwhelmingly OP entity in this world yet, and I want to possibly try to get into a direction where I can properly show of this world and the creatures that live in it, as I've already been trying to do a little bit more lately. Again, thanks for the criticism! I hope you won't discard this novel completely yet, though! :D
kayann_uoya
kayann_uoyaLv1

autor foimal eu não sei ingles sou horrivel, e tambem não li a historia inteira, estou depois que o mc acho o grimorio mas porra acha um grimorio em uma bliblioteca normal é meio que de fude pq nem 1 mago percebeu?

DiceVR:Hey there! I appreciate the criticism! It's appreciated and noted! First of all, I know that my world-building is really weak in this novel, and I really do have the tendency to focus on rather trivial matters, but I have a hard time suddenly switching the tone that I developed for this novel, so I'm not sure if it's really going to change at any point within this. At least not suddenly, I might develop things a bit more into this direction as time goes on, though. I was definitely already aware of these things. (Also, with the Devil-Town Arc at the start, that was me still trying to find the way I wanted to write this novel, and for that part I ended up going with the Shonen-Anime trope of "Wherever the MC goes, some high-tier crazy sh*t is going down", which probably wasn't the best choice. Still kind of doing that in the later chapters, but I feel like it's lesser than during that whole arc) And also, since there are a few things you seemed interested in that I wanted to clear up, here we go: 1. The number of the Royal Monsters is the same as the number of cards of the Major Arcana there are. Each Royal Monster corresponds to one card of the Tarot's Major Arcana, hence there are 22 of them. I thought I made that clear enough, but I guess not! Maybe I'll go back and try to add a specific explanation for that in one of the earlier chapters! 2. While the evolutionary path of the MC certainly is unique, 'Unique' doesn't necessarily mean 'Overpowered'. Obviously, to an extent, Eiro is overpowered as hell, but it's not because of his evolutions directly but because of the powers he built around them. 3. The 'good' and 'bad' sides have a rough power-balance, but that balance only exists because of the existence of the Hero in that world. 4. What the Cards really are is a thing that not even the people of the world there know, just that it came from the 'Arcane Dealer'. What they are will be explained at some point, but it's an important part of the plot and it can't just be randomly explained at any point, so sorry about that! 5. 'The World', the royal whose card Eiro got, was sealed in a special place where nobody was able to even find out that this royal was sealed there, not even other royals. So of course, Noble Monsters wouldn't know it either. In conclusion... Trust me, I'm more aware of all these plotholes and mistakes than anyone else, and I hope to be able to go through the whole novel at some point and edit it to make a lot of things make a lot more sense and simply make it better, but at this point in time that is simply not a viable option. Just know that a few of the things that you complained about are things that I am working on fixing and resolving. For example, I want to focus more on Eiro's different abilities, I want to show more really strong characters that show that Eiro isn't a completely overwhelmingly OP entity in this world yet, and I want to possibly try to get into a direction where I can properly show of this world and the creatures that live in it, as I've already been trying to do a little bit more lately. Again, thanks for the criticism! I hope you won't discard this novel completely yet, though! :D
lyofy
lyofyLv1

Yoo could you rec me some of your fav noVels

EternalEden
EternalEdenLv13

Bruh, your review is extremely thorough...

Aurey
AureyLv15

wow, I absolutely love your review and Author response, I was gonna review about the exact same thing. Please try your best Author!! the concept itself is good enough, it's just the execution and experience that you need more!!

Slothfulmonk
SlothfulmonkLv3

it's seems like time spent for nothing thanks bro and do you know non-human tag novel that mc really act like one

Monarch_Lord
Monarch_LordLv3

Holy.. I admire ur dedication

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