Im complety sure that most of men dont like harem, for one reason we are a monogamy society

Trust me they all do. Loyalist men cab love one woman rest of his life and live happily and they won't go out of their way to pursue other women but if his first wide is okay fully with his taking another woman they will take other women. 2 is better than 1 anyway.

Believe you? Haha you are talking a lot of nonsense and you tell me that haha. How immature you have to be to say that, as well as illogical. If a person with the morals to go after other women depending on the situation, do you think he would care about someone's permission to do so? Do you think someone like that could be faithful? That is totally contradictory to the concept of fidelity. If a man is faithful to anything it is because he decides so himself. Most men like monogamy, there is a reason why the structure evolved and was established in such a way. It still doesn't change the fact that psychologically we feel much better having just one partner.

Are two wives better than one? Here we are not talking about group work but about another type of relationship, here it is not one plus one equals two, rather it is subtracted. It subtracts many things, trust, love, self-esteem, peace, most importantly: morality... Furthermore, for what or who is that better? Simply considering the amount for the object of satisfaction makes the issue superficial and therefore worse.

you are delusional if you think most men like monogamy. Sure,there might be a like 5 percent of the whole population who likes monogamy but if every consequences is removed and they would definitely like polygamy. 90 percent of the men would like a polygamy relationship but if the person himself think that one woman he can live with that. I am not immature you a4e immature for thinking men don't like polygamy.

I am talking when both wives agree to the cause of polygamy. In reality it is impossible to have that kind of relationship without internal conflicts but that doesn't change the fact most men like polygamy relationship if there is no consequences.

I never said people can thrive when they are in a polygamy relationship. I said men like harem if they can get it.

When did I say that you said that? I am responding to what you said: two wives or women are better than one.

I'm not assuming anything, you are, the majority like monogamous relationships that's why the majority of modern and even ancient society evolved in monogamous relationships. I speak of the fact that you speak with an authority that you do not have, assuming what men like and what would happen in x situation. Furthermore, precisely because of those consequences that you talk about, they would also be a reason why men like monogamous relationships. So I don't see logic, anyone likes many things because it can imply fewer consequences of something. Nor can it be said that if they are eliminated because it is inherent to the idea, otherwise it would not be as such.

You are committing a contradiction, in fact if you change the fact that because of the problems or anything "causal and inherent" to what a polygamous relationship implies, men do not like polygamous relationships. For those same reasons, someone may not like to eat a lot, because it makes them gain weight. And gaining weight is a fact of eating a lot for that person. Or a person who doesn't like football because it tires their legs. Let's now imagine something directly causal in consequences like the problems of polygamous relationships, of which there are many. So to eliminate the consequences, then we would no longer be talking about polygamous relationships. Because to eliminate the consequences you have to remove the cause and the cause is the polygamous relationships themselves.

no they don't like it. From the ancient times they didn't like they had to do it only men or women with certain high status and power over the tradition or people who were never under that kinds of traditio could manipulate it to having more partners. They didn't like it especially men otherwise there won't be so many cheating on the side from both partners. Men had to do it because that was the law and culture and defying things like that had severe punishments throught the times and women had to do it because of safety and survival especially when they are pregnant. Polygamy relationship is very hard to manage and it is full of problems but majority of men will like a polygamy relationship when there are no problems.

Bro, didn't you read anything I wrote to you? It doesn't make sense to say that you like it but if it were without problems. Because those problems are what make them not exactly like it, I already explained this to you... These problems are inherent, they are not causes that can be separated from the fact, the problems cannot be removed because it would have to stop being what the issue is then. As I already told you, someone doesn't like something precisely because of the problems with that something. And infidelity is not the same as polygamous relationships, a man who is unfaithful does not mean that he likes polygamy at all. On the other hand, why do you talk about culture and society as if they had been configured from nothing? That's why I tell you that people don't like polygamous relationships, that's why we configure society and maintain it that way. That's why society (we) live in such a way. It is the morality that we have engraved in our minds and that is why we move forward to adjust a society with monogamous relationships and in that way it becomes more prosperous. On a psychological level we are also much better that way.

no It is not the same thing it is two different things. For example,someone stopped eating fast food(after a long time) because he wants to lose weight. Does that mean he doesn't like fast food? He does that out of necessity and because he wants a healthy lifestyle. That doesn't mean they don't like fastfood that m that ans because of the conseque, ces they are rejecting the food. Same can be applied to here. most of the men would love to have a harem but risks are high for that kind of relationship. But when people started to use that kind of morals in novels, it irritates me when people use these morals here because entertainment are supposed give you an escape from the reality( even now that is the main purpose eventhough Some value realism now).

Let's see, I used examples linked to the cause and I even told you that the consequences and problems are inherent to the fact in polygamous relationships. You are using a fallacy of example and association. Here we are talking from the perspective that someone does not like something because of its causes and consequences, that is why I said that someone cannot like to eat a lot because it can make them gain weight. Not the other way around. That is for even those examples that, as you see, are not necessarily inherent issues like your example of hamburgers, but as I said, what I said is already something inherent to the cause. Furthermore, someone cannot precisely like eating hamburgers because it can make them gain weight, it is not the same as liking hamburgers. I may like to eat vegetables because they improve my condition but I may not like vegetables. The fact is that you may or may not like something for reasons. That's for non-inherent causes. Now with polygamous relationships, if you remove the problem of polygamous relationships, they would have to stop being polygamous. Polygamous relationships are the problem and the consequence of monogamous relationships. Its consequences are inherent.

An important fact to re-emphasize is that you may like things or not follow their reasons or consequences. What I was saying is not supported by anything, I said that man does not like polygamous relationships precisely because of how society (us) evolves, also because of the inherent problems that polygamous relationships imply. Which means that when you don't like polygamous relationships it is necessarily because of their problems. And you can't say that you like polygamous relationships if it weren't for the problems because it would have to stop being polygamous relationships since its problems are the natural fact in itself of polygamous relationships over monogamous relationships.