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DxD Rants

Nothing much, just me ranting about DxD fanon and all kind of stuff like lore, setting, misconceptions, etc...

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Gods vs Angels.

So this was supposed to be a Longinus rant, but some dumbass annoyed me enough to write this, so let's get this over with. This won't be a real anything with details, the actual rant about Fallen and angels will come later on. This is just their power level.

So, to begin with, how many does Cadres does Grigori has and how many Seraph does heaven has? The answer to that is here:

"Yeah, it's a picture of our comrades."

"So, are these people that are on the painting working here as well?"

"...No, those guys have already died from the old war and such."

—! I didn't know how to reply back to Sensei after hearing that. So the ones in the paintings are Sensei's comrades who had already passed away... Sensei continues.

"The leaders who are still alive among the members of Grigori since its creation are the seven of us consisting of, me, Vice-governor Shamhaza, Barakiel, the glasses from before, Tamiel who is standing over there, Penemue, and Armaros."--Volume 15, Life 4, Part 2.

As of Volume 15, Grigori have only 7 leaders left: Azazel, Shamhaza, Baraquiel, Tamiel, Sahariel, Penemue and Armaros

As of recently, 2 Cadres defected in the last 5 years: Satannael and Kokabiel.

Except Azazel with his 12 wings, all the others are 10 winged fallen.

For heaven, we have 6 confirmed Seraph in the story with the 4 left told to us by Ishibumi in his blogs. The 10 are:

Micheal, Gabriel, Uriel, Raphael, Metraton, Sandalphone, Sandalphon, Sariel, Remiel, Raziel.

All we know is that the 4 great seraph are 12 winged, Metraton and Sandalphon are twin angels with 12 wings from Isshibumi's blog.

For those that are complaining:" Where is the source", here: http://ishibumi.exblog.jp

But I pretty the dumbass who asked for this still won't won't look at it, so whatever.

Back to point, let's now compare these angels to all the Gods we have in the series. Well not all, but some of them. First we have:

--Loki: Loki is the first God we see in a main fight. Now I don't need to remind you that Loki doing pretty good against both Vali and Issei in Balance Breaker do I? And the fact he didn't get stomped on immediately by both makes him stronger than any 10 winged fallen or angel. Not to mention that

Here is a segment of the fight for any disbelievers:

> Loki shot out a huge-magical-attack ball!

> GUGAAAN!

> I dodged it just before it hit me, but it wiped away the part of my armour which it grazed! Getting hit by it directly would be bad! Like I thought, a God is a God, even if he is called an Evil-God! So it means he can destroy Boosted Gear Scalemail!

> "...I won't be able to activate the power to halve if my opponent is a God-class. So I will have myself reduce your power slowly!"

> DON! DON! DOOOOOOON!

> Vali created many attacks made from his demonic-power which are mixed with the Norse-magic formula, and he shoots them out. Each of them gets taken down by Loki's magical power, but not all of them could be wiped out, so several of them hit Loki's body. But, he didn't receive any remarkable damage.

> "To be expected from the Hakuryuukou! It seems like you learned the Norse-magic in such a short time, but….-It's still not enough!"

> Loki releases a wave of magical-power which is glowing like a rainbow. Vali makes his wings bigger, and it seems like he is planning to take it head on.

> [DivideDivideDivideDivideDivideDivideDivideDivide!!]

> The Divine-Dividing's ability was activated, and Loki's attack continues to get smaller.

> "-It seems like I can use my ability to halve without touching it if it's an attack like this. But, this consumes a lot from me."

> Is it an applied technique of his move which halves his territory? Even if it doesn't affect Loki's body, it works on his attack. It seems like he is also growing and attaining new ability. Scary!

> But, several of the attacks he released hit and pierce through Vali's armour! The Divine-Dividing Scalemail gets damaged heavily, but Vali repairs it immediately.--Volume 7, Life 4 Part 2.

I don't think I need more proof to show that Loki is stronger than any 10 winged angel do I? And remember, Loki is one of the weakest gods to be shown in the series, near the bottom actually.

2-Sun Wuking: So, Sun Wukong. Am I wrong to assume that anyone who actually think this monkey can't kill any angel besides Micheal is retarded? Seriously, just these 2 following feats are above anything Azazel in his Balance Breaker showed:

> "Capture and bind, mist!"

> The mist from before began to surround First Gen and gathered.

> "By the justice of Heaven, thunder sealing the Dragon's jaw. Prostrate upon the ground."

> Thud.

> First Gen chanted the spell, then tapped his staff on the ground once, and the mist dispersed! He broke through that kind of mist just like that!

> Cao Cao saw an opening and extended the blade of his spear, planning on ambushing First Gen. With one finger, First Gen blocked the spear! Come on, can this be real!? He defended against that spear just like that!

> "...Not a bad attack. But if it's only at this level, you're still young. If your attacks are at the level that can be stopped by my finger, it is impossible for you to eliminate the other Gods and Buddhas. Whether you or the mist user, neither gave me a serious attack. Don't underestimate me."--Volume 9, Life 4, Part 5.

See that spear being stopped by finger? Balance Breaker Azazel couldn't do that for sure, much less normal Azazel who isn't using a Dragon King's power to help him all the time.

Fun Fact: Did you know that a weaker Balance Breaker Cao Cao manhandled Azazel, Issei, Vali, Kiba, Rias, Asia, Xenovia, etc... alone? Then, in DX6, we see Cao Cao struggling so much in fighting against Sutur, who I remind you isn't in the Top 10 but damn if he isn't near the top.

Now understand with me here, all the Gods that appear after this scale so far above Loki and Sun Wukong it's sad to even look at.

Tartarus required Issei to pull a Goku and unlock a new form that can supposedly destroy the world. AND Hades is fucking stronger than Tartarus.

Hades and Typhoon both are in the Top 10. Almost all the top 10 are Gods of various mythologies. How can anyone actually believe that angels stand a chance against Gods? Micheal, the strongest of the angels, couldn't do much to Rivezim of all people. The same Rivezim that gets trashed by Issei when he unlocked his Penetrate.

That Issei, who had to pull 2 stronger forms to actually defeat people like Erebus, Tartarus, Nyx, Thanatos, Hades, etc...

Seriously, I love the Biblical heaven and all, but they relied so much on God before his death. Without him, the pantheon gets easily murdered by pretty much all other Pantheon. Sure, an a out war will cost all sides, as heaven will not fall easily, thanks to all the defenses God left behind and how solid Heaven's Gates, walls and other things are. But that doesn't change the fact that a lot of God's specialising in combat can just murder any angel really.

Also, for anyone wondering, here is the top 10( That is actually the top 14) list:

> Fifth point, the questions I receive a lot from the readers.

> I received many support letters and questions from the readers. So I am thinking of answering several of those asked often here. The question I received a lot is this one.

> "Who would be among the top 10 strongest in the world that Vali was speaking about in volume 4?"

> It was even written in the message that the fans are also debating about this. …..Seems like everyone are interested in it. I do have the setting of it just in case, so I will announce it here. Of course it is a DxD original ranking.

In no particular order Ophis, Shiva, Vishnu, Brahma, Śakra, Thor, Typhon (Or Fenrir), Hades, Aten, and Lugh.

> That's how it is. Great Red isn't included because it is a creature who basically doesn't fight (I get many claim that this isn't true!), and it is the ranking before Ophis and Fenrir lost their powers. What you will have to pay attention to are the Hindu mythology which hasn't appeared in the series yet. Well, those who know about their mythology know it, but the Hindu Gods all have cheat-like abilities. If I make them appear in DxD, it will turn out like the battle in Dragon Ball, so I controlled myself. The Hindu mythology will be placed in the higher ranks of the Top-10 strongest that Vali spoke about. It truly is terrifying. If DxD continues to go on for much longer, I'm thinking of doing "The Destruction God Shiva arc" as a last resort. So I have no plan to make them appear until then. By the way the true Sirzechs and the serious Ajuka will be placed among the ranks.--Volume 13, Afterword.

Anyways, just don't mind this, the actual rant will be released soon. And a more detailed breakdown will be released on Fallen and Angels so no need to worry. Adios.