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Bananaking123
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2024-09-25 23:12

Yo, i just see you write Dxd fic, Here is my advice never write Dxd story by using Dxd anime as reference, Because unlike in light novel, dxd version anime ruin a lot of characters, especially Issei's characters hard to the point that reduce him into fanservice machine.

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FroggitDude
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Who said I'm writing fanfiction based on the anime? I spent over a month reading the novel, 25 damn volumes! So I don't get where this opinion comes from!

Notorious_Zeke
Notorious_ZekeLv12

I don't get the "human have limitless potential" tbh, even with science and let's say you calculate a magic that emulates a nuclear weapon, well that's strong but not that bad in dxd world. Supernatural are innately better than humans, devils imagination magic is better than scientific magic and let's not talk about their innate physical abilities that are stronger and they can learn touki too.

FroggitDude:Who said I'm writing fanfiction based on the anime? I spent over a month reading the novel, 25 damn volumes! So I don't get where this opinion comes from!
FroggitDude
FroggitDudeAuthor

Firstly, when it comes to physical strength, one of the strongest individuals in the world is Vasco Strada, a human. Secondly, I agree that in DxD, devil magic is portrayed as easier to use and more powerful, but that’s mainly because the author of DxD didn’t fully explore the potential of human magic. If human magic is based on science and calculations, the simplest way to destroy a planet would be by applying Albert Einstein’s famous law of mass-energy equivalence. This principle allows for the conversion of mass into pure energy, which manifests as electromagnetic waves and thermal energy. The destructive power is immense — just 50 milligrams of water, when converted, would release energy equivalent to 1,000 tons of TNT. All you need for a bigger explosion is to convert more mass. In essence, such magic could easily wipe out an entire planet.

Notorious_Zeke:I don't get the "human have limitless potential" tbh, even with science and let's say you calculate a magic that emulates a nuclear weapon, well that's strong but not that bad in dxd world. Supernatural are innately better than humans, devils imagination magic is better than scientific magic and let's not talk about their innate physical abilities that are stronger and they can learn touki too.
Bananaking123
Bananaking123Lv3

You said "Rias is gonna toughen up and won't be that helpless damsel from the anime." Thank to the last words, i thought you based this on anime

FroggitDude:Who said I'm writing fanfiction based on the anime? I spent over a month reading the novel, 25 damn volumes! So I don't get where this opinion comes from!
Daoist5VTbKn
Daoist5VTbKnLv1

Honestly, the potential of human magic in DXD is absurd because it does not have the limitation of imagination, after all there is a limit to what you can imagine. This conversation reminded me of the manwha: I am the Sorcerer King, in which the protagonist mixes magic and science and has an overwhelming result, having almost infinite mana being generated by a nuclear fusion reactor and using an anti-matter cannon.

FroggitDude:Firstly, when it comes to physical strength, one of the strongest individuals in the world is Vasco Strada, a human. Secondly, I agree that in DxD, devil magic is portrayed as easier to use and more powerful, but that’s mainly because the author of DxD didn’t fully explore the potential of human magic. If human magic is based on science and calculations, the simplest way to destroy a planet would be by applying Albert Einstein’s famous law of mass-energy equivalence. This principle allows for the conversion of mass into pure energy, which manifests as electromagnetic waves and thermal energy. The destructive power is immense — just 50 milligrams of water, when converted, would release energy equivalent to 1,000 tons of TNT. All you need for a bigger explosion is to convert more mass. In essence, such magic could easily wipe out an entire planet.
The_Zen_Boy
The_Zen_BoyLv4

Imagination has limits? since when? Everything around you and every knowledge you know was an imagination at some point. imagination is boundless because it operates independently of external reality and physics. As long as neural activity continues, the possibility for new imaginative thoughts remains for as long as one lives. And human magic being stronger than devils? Ok, let's say I want to cause a mass destruction using a Gama Ray Burst which is one of the largest explosions in the universe if I am not wrong... if we go by science, do you seriously know how ungodly amounts of physically existing energy someone needs to even recreate 1/50 of that kinda explosion? a lot. Now this dude let's say wants to recreate this explosion using human magic which works based on codes and how much you know of periodic table ( something similar to fuinjutsu in Naruto ), this dude at the very least needs 50 years just create the magic code and thennn add energy so the energy could go off. Well, there are easier ways to do this but whatever. Meanwhile the Devil magic just needs you to be able to think which is a rare ability in anime worlds. The point is, whatever humans could do the Devils or any other dudes in DxD can do it 10× better. In a supernatural world, MC is just unfortunate to deal with science and that nonsense I struggled with back in the day in school which served me nothing.

Daoist5VTbKn:Honestly, the potential of human magic in DXD is absurd because it does not have the limitation of imagination, after all there is a limit to what you can imagine. This conversation reminded me of the manwha: I am the Sorcerer King, in which the protagonist mixes magic and science and has an overwhelming result, having almost infinite mana being generated by a nuclear fusion reactor and using an anti-matter cannon.
Daoist890597
Daoist890597Lv1

I believe that this type of magic is comparable to Ajuka Beelzebub's Kankara Formula, which suggests that devils are capable of using human magic to an extreme extent, surpassing the limits of what human magicians are capable of achieving themselves.

FroggitDude:Firstly, when it comes to physical strength, one of the strongest individuals in the world is Vasco Strada, a human. Secondly, I agree that in DxD, devil magic is portrayed as easier to use and more powerful, but that’s mainly because the author of DxD didn’t fully explore the potential of human magic. If human magic is based on science and calculations, the simplest way to destroy a planet would be by applying Albert Einstein’s famous law of mass-energy equivalence. This principle allows for the conversion of mass into pure energy, which manifests as electromagnetic waves and thermal energy. The destructive power is immense — just 50 milligrams of water, when converted, would release energy equivalent to 1,000 tons of TNT. All you need for a bigger explosion is to convert more mass. In essence, such magic could easily wipe out an entire planet.
Daoist5VTbKn
Daoist5VTbKnLv1

in fact the imagination is limited by your mind/brain and the quantification of extensive numbers tries to imagine the sun on a real scale or quantification 1,000,000 using any object the mind would hardly have to use such large numbers so, yes the mind has a limit that mathematics does not have like the 4th dimension that I do not think any being from dxd (maybe big red or ophis) could understand, now mathematically it is possible and about the energy issue it is not exactly the focus but it really is a problem and about destructive events the collision between matter and antimatter is probably much more destructive

The_Zen_Boy:Imagination has limits? since when? Everything around you and every knowledge you know was an imagination at some point. imagination is boundless because it operates independently of external reality and physics. As long as neural activity continues, the possibility for new imaginative thoughts remains for as long as one lives. And human magic being stronger than devils? Ok, let's say I want to cause a mass destruction using a Gama Ray Burst which is one of the largest explosions in the universe if I am not wrong... if we go by science, do you seriously know how ungodly amounts of physically existing energy someone needs to even recreate 1/50 of that kinda explosion? a lot. Now this dude let's say wants to recreate this explosion using human magic which works based on codes and how much you know of periodic table ( something similar to fuinjutsu in Naruto ), this dude at the very least needs 50 years just create the magic code and thennn add energy so the energy could go off. Well, there are easier ways to do this but whatever. Meanwhile the Devil magic just needs you to be able to think which is a rare ability in anime worlds. The point is, whatever humans could do the Devils or any other dudes in DxD can do it 10× better. In a supernatural world, MC is just unfortunate to deal with science and that nonsense I struggled with back in the day in school which served me nothing.
The_Zen_Boy
The_Zen_BoyLv4

But isn't it easier being another race other than humans? we can understand the 4th dimension with mathematics but at the end of the day, humans aren't the only ones with brains, Ajuka is an example of this which I still think the OG Author did that guy really dirty for not making him standing at the top, he is really underrated and I will call it bull and plot if this reincarnated MC surpasses him in intelligence and power. As for imagination, I think understanding abstracts by imagination is hard but still, it's much more powerful than writing codes and understanding complex numbers just to throw a fireball, at least you don't have to go through math to just create whatever you want, stop time, travel through space...etc, it only needs you to think and sufficient energy to pull it off. As for the energy, I think even if this MC somehow was able to let's say, Math his way to create a miniature sun, he won't be able to create it simply because he doesn't have the energy to pull it off except for maybe finding a way to create an energy absorption spell which I think is one of the hardest things to do without having really high quality material to use as a medium for absorbing the said energy, and even in that case, the material will be finite and not sufficient, or make his body could be strong strong to have more mana but I doubt it will be any good as humans have more limits to be surpassed than any other race. Imagination on the other hand + an energy reduction spell, you could create a miniature sun, but maybe if you were an Ultimate or a Satan class being. The point is, DxD humans are not better than anyone and the only thing that makes them exceptional are Sacred Gears.

Daoist5VTbKn:in fact the imagination is limited by your mind/brain and the quantification of extensive numbers tries to imagine the sun on a real scale or quantification 1,000,000 using any object the mind would hardly have to use such large numbers so, yes the mind has a limit that mathematics does not have like the 4th dimension that I do not think any being from dxd (maybe big red or ophis) could understand, now mathematically it is possible and about the energy issue it is not exactly the focus but it really is a problem and about destructive events the collision between matter and antimatter is probably much more destructive
Daoist5VTbKn
Daoist5VTbKnLv1

I read your comment several times and you are right on several points, but I honestly find magic based on imagination a bit boring. Regarding race, it only depends on the author, changing race in DxD is possible, you just need to be lucky (author) or be a great geneticist (also author). And regarding the problem regarding energy, there are several means, although a lot of money is needed for the options.

The_Zen_Boy:But isn't it easier being another race other than humans? we can understand the 4th dimension with mathematics but at the end of the day, humans aren't the only ones with brains, Ajuka is an example of this which I still think the OG Author did that guy really dirty for not making him standing at the top, he is really underrated and I will call it bull and plot if this reincarnated MC surpasses him in intelligence and power. As for imagination, I think understanding abstracts by imagination is hard but still, it's much more powerful than writing codes and understanding complex numbers just to throw a fireball, at least you don't have to go through math to just create whatever you want, stop time, travel through space...etc, it only needs you to think and sufficient energy to pull it off. As for the energy, I think even if this MC somehow was able to let's say, Math his way to create a miniature sun, he won't be able to create it simply because he doesn't have the energy to pull it off except for maybe finding a way to create an energy absorption spell which I think is one of the hardest things to do without having really high quality material to use as a medium for absorbing the said energy, and even in that case, the material will be finite and not sufficient, or make his body could be strong strong to have more mana but I doubt it will be any good as humans have more limits to be surpassed than any other race. Imagination on the other hand + an energy reduction spell, you could create a miniature sun, but maybe if you were an Ultimate or a Satan class being. The point is, DxD humans are not better than anyone and the only thing that makes them exceptional are Sacred Gears.
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