Lloyd and Alice reached a deadlock in their discussion and there was no turning back for the both of them. He thought of himself as a big fool who hadn't learned his lesson twice. First was the incident with Shane, where he betrayed him and almost killed him. The second one was Alice, whom they had been acquainted for a short period of time. However, unlike Shane who had been with them since the start of the trials and with Ray and Stanley knowing him for even a longer period of time than Lloyd, Alice was just a random guest in their party. They knew nothing about the woman and hadn't really bonded with her except for that time when Ray and Lloyd went to the casino to play blackjack and happened to stumble upon her, as well as that time when she suddenly contacted Ray and told him about Kaiser and his group.