In the Investiture of the Gods, Patriarch Hongjun was the master of Taishang Laojun, Yuanshi Tianzun, and Tongtian. He was described as the embodiment of the Great Dao and the guide and supervisor of the Zenith Heaven Golden Immortals of Origin such as the Three Pure Ones, the Two Sages of the West, and Nuwa. However, there were different theories and explanations regarding whether Patriarch Hongjun was the embodiment of Grand Supreme Elder. One view was that Patriarch Hongjun was the embodiment of Grand Supreme Elder. Supporters of this view usually quoted the description of "Pangu opened the sky and earth, and Yi Qi transformed into Hongjun", believing that Patriarch Hongjun was an incarnation of Pangu, and Taishang Laojun was one of Pangu's incarnations. Therefore, Patriarch Hongjun could be considered the embodiment of Grand Supreme Elder. Another point of view was that Patriarch Hongjun and Grand Supreme Elder were different existences. The supporters of this view believed that although Patriarch Hongjun was the master of Grand Supreme Elder, their identities and status were different. Patriarch Hongjun was regarded as the ancestor of all immortals and the embodiment of the Great Dao, while Grand Supreme Elder was one of the Three Pure Ones and the embodiment of Dao. It should be noted that these views were based on the descriptions and explanations in the Investiture of the Gods. Different readers and researchers might have different understandings and opinions. While waiting for the TV series, you can also click on the link below to read the classic original work of " A Record of a Mortal's Journey to Immortality "!

Hongjun and Grand Supreme Elder were two different characters. In the novel Investiture of the Gods, Hongjun was the master of Taishang Laojun, Yuanshi Tianzun, and Tongtian. He was depicted as the embodiment of the Great Dao and the guide and supervisor of the Zenith Heaven Golden Immortals of Origin such as the Three Pure Ones, the Two Sages of the West, and Nuwa. Grand Supreme Elder was one of the Three Pure Ones and one of Hongjun's disciples. Therefore, Hongjun was not Grand Supreme Elder, but Grand Supreme Elder's master. While waiting for the TV series, he could also click on the link below to read the classic original work of " The Legend of Mortal Cultivation "!
The incarnation of Taishang Laojun has Laozi (In Taoism, Laozi is one of the three incarnations of Taishang Laojun in the human world), Pangu (In some ancient books, Pangu is the incarnation of Taishang Laojun. For example, in the relevant interpretation of the Investiture of the Gods, it is mentioned that Taishang Laojun used the Taiji Diagram to create all things in the world. Sun Wukong also once said that Taishang Laojun was the ancestor of the creation of the world and once changed into Pangu to create the world), Goddess Nvywa (According to the content of Journey to the West, Goddess Nüwa was the incarnation of Taishang Laojun. It was said that Taishang Laojun changed into Goddess Nüwa in ancient times and refined stones to mend the sky on Kunlun Mountain), Jade Emperor (It was said that Taishang Laojun cultivated in the chaotic universe. After the appearance of heaven and earth, he left a primordial spirit in the Untainted World to cultivate and become Zhang Bairen, later known as the Jade Emperor), Guang Chengzi (in some sayings, he was the incarnation of Taishang Laojun), and in the Taoist immortal system, Heavenly Lord Yuanshi, Heavenly Lord Dao De, and Heavenly Lord Lingbao could be seen as the incarnation of Taishang Laojun. In addition, in some explanations, Immortal Du'e and Master Xuandu were also related to Taishang Laojun, but they did not explicitly mention that it was an incarnation relationship. However, it also reflected the fundamental role of Taishang Laojun in the immortal system. 'The Myth of True Love in the Pangu Progenitor Universe' is equally wonderful. Please click to read it!
Different systems had different situations. In the related settings of the Investiture of the Gods, Taishang Laojun was more powerful than Patriarch Hongjun in the Connate Infinite World, and Patriarch Hongjun was more powerful than Taishang Laojun in the Heaven-Opening Great Ultimate World. The difference between the Heaven-Opening Great Ultimate World and the Connate Infinite World was divided by the time when Pangu created the world. The universe before Pangu created the world was called the Connate Infinite World, and the universe after Pangu created the world was called the Heaven-Opening Great Ultimate World. In primeval novels, Patriarch Hongjun's status was often above Grand Supreme Elder. From the formal literature and classics of Taoism, Patriarch Hongjun belonged to an evil sect and did not exist in Taoist culture. It was impossible to compare the strength of the two according to this system. 'The Myth of True Love in the Pangu Progenitor Universe' is equally wonderful. Please click to read it!
In the novel Investiture of the Gods, Hongjun was the Dao Ancestor, and Taishang Laojun was Hongjun's disciple. However, in other literary works other than Investiture of the Gods, there might be different settings. While waiting for the TV series, you can also click on the link below to read the classic original work of " A Record of a Mortal's Journey to Immortality "!
Hongjun and Grand Supreme Elder were both called Dao Ancestors. In Taoist mythology, Hongjun was regarded as the highest god of Taoism. He was the master of Taishang Laojun, Yuanshi Tianzun, and Tongtian. He was respectfully called Patriarch Hongjun or Ancestor Hongjun. Taishang Laojun was the ancestor of Taoism. He was widely recognized as the Taishang Daozu who had the ability to open up the sky, create the world, and redeem the world. Therefore, Hongjun and Grand Supreme Elder were both respectfully called Dao Ancestors. There was no clear relationship between them. While waiting for the TV series, he could also click on the link below to read the classic original work of " The Legend of Mortal Cultivation "!
Hongjun was a character in the novel Investiture of the Gods, and Taishang Laojun was a character in the novel Journey to the West. They came from two different novels, so they could not be compared. In the novel Investiture of the Gods, Hongjun was the embodiment of the Heavenly Dao, and Taishang Laojun was one of the Three Pure Ones of Taoism. The Three Pure Ones of Taoism were Yuqing Yuanshi Tianzun, Shangqing Lingbao Tianzun, and Taiqing Daode Tianzun respectively. Therefore, Taishang Laojun was the ancestor of Taoism. In the novel Journey to the West, Taishang Laojun was the leader of Taoism and the ancestor of Taoism. While waiting for the TV series, you can also click on the link below to read the classic original work of " A Record of a Mortal's Journey to Immortality "!
The founder of Taoism was Laozi, who was respectfully called "Taishang Laojun". Lao Tzu was one of the founders of Taoism. His book Tao Te Ching had a profound influence on the formation and development of Taoism. Daoist Hongjun was another important figure in Taoism and was considered one of Laozi's disciples. According to legend, Daoist Hongjun already existed before the chaos was divided and the universe was created. He obtained an immortal body through cultivation and founded the Daoist school. Daoist Hongjun and Taishang Laojun had a teacher-student relationship. Daoist Hongjun was Laozi's disciple, while Taishang Laojun was one of the highest leaders of the Daoist school. He was considered the master of the universe and an immortal existence.
Taishang Laojun and Guang Chengzi were two important figures in Taoism. Taishang Laojun was regarded as the ancestor of Taoism, and also the Taishang Daozu who had the ability to open up the sky, create the world, and redeem the world. He was called the Grand Supreme Connate Limitless Great Dao, the ruler of the Great Dao and the ruler of the Limitless. Among the five disciples of Grand Supreme Elder, Guang Chengzi was one of them. Guang Chengzi was a Taoist figure during the Yellow Emperor's era. It was said that he cultivated in Kongtong Mountain. The Yellow Emperor specially went to visit him and took him as his teacher to learn the art of governing the country. Guang Chengzi was also known as one of the incarnations of Taishang Laojun. According to different records, Taishang Laojun and Guangchengzi played different roles and identities in Taoism. However, the specific relationship and identity between them may differ in different literature and legends.
In Taoism, Taishang Laojun was closely related to Laozi. Laozi was regarded as one of the incarnations of Taishang Laojun, like the eighteenth incarnation of Taishang Laojun. From the perspective of the development of Taoist mythology, Lao Tzu's Tao Te Ching was regarded as the Tao Te Ching by Taoism. Lao Tzu was also regarded as the ancestor of Taoism. With the development of Taoism, he was gradually regarded as an immortal and associated with Taishang Laojun. However, strictly speaking, the god Taishang Laojun had many characteristics such as transcending time and space. He was the embodiment of the Great Dao. The Great Dao gathered into Laojun and dispersed into Qi (One Qi turns into Three Pure Ones). In order to educate the world, Laozi would appear in different forms. Laozi was only one of his incarnations. Therefore, it could be said that Laozi was Taishang Laojun, but Taishang Laojun was not just Laozi. In some literary works, such as Journey to the West, the image of Taishang Laojun was different from traditional religious ideas. The image in the novel could not completely represent the definition of Taoism. 'The Myth of True Love in the Pangu Progenitor Universe' is equally wonderful. Please click to read it!
In the Taoist mythological system, Taishang Laojun was regarded as the ancestor of chaos, the parent of heaven and earth, the master of Yin and Yang, and the emperor of all gods. There was a saying that Pangu came first, followed by heaven, and Taishang came before Pangu. His seniority was extremely high, almost as long as heaven and earth. From this point of view, he had the characteristic of immortality. Furthermore, in many myths and derivative works, the Grand Supreme Elderly Lord had existed for a long time, which also indirectly reflected his immortality. For example, in the story line of Journey to the West, from the time when Sun Wukong wreaked havoc in Heaven to the time when he escorted Tang Sanzang to the West to obtain scriptures, Taishang Laojun always existed and played various roles. For example, he used the diamond chakram to sneak up on Sun Wukong, put Sun Wukong into the Eight Trigrams Furnace, and sent the boy to turn into the King of Gold Horn and the King of Silver Horn to make things difficult for Tang Sanzang and his disciples. His existence ran through the whole story as if he was not affected by time, which also hinted at his immortality.