Is Hongjun the incarnation of Taishang Laojun?

Answer 1

In the Investiture of the Gods, Patriarch Hongjun was the master of Taishang Laojun, Yuanshi Tianzun, and Tongtian. He was described as the embodiment of the Great Dao and the guide and supervisor of the Zenith Heaven Golden Immortals of Origin such as the Three Pure Ones, the Two Sages of the West, and Nuwa. However, there were different theories and explanations regarding whether Patriarch Hongjun was the embodiment of Grand Supreme Elder.

One view was that Patriarch Hongjun was the embodiment of Grand Supreme Elder. Supporters of this view usually quoted the description of "Pangu opened the sky and earth, and Yi Qi transformed into Hongjun", believing that Patriarch Hongjun was an incarnation of Pangu, and Taishang Laojun was one of Pangu's incarnations. Therefore, Patriarch Hongjun could be considered the embodiment of Grand Supreme Elder.

Another point of view was that Patriarch Hongjun and Grand Supreme Elder were different existences. The supporters of this view believed that although Patriarch Hongjun was the master of Grand Supreme Elder, their identities and status were different. Patriarch Hongjun was regarded as the ancestor of all immortals and the embodiment of the Great Dao. Grand Supreme Elder was one of the Three Pure Ones and the embodiment of Dao.

It should be noted that these views were based on the descriptions and explanations in the Investiture of the Gods. Different readers and researchers might have different understandings and opinions.

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