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WaifuWithABomb
WaifuWithABombLv121yr
2023-11-07 13:01

it was good, but around 130 chapters it's all started going downhill. it's too predictable, the drama became too much, and them dramas are garbage, author don't have any creativity. the plot become too forced, the novel just become some low level garbage novel. mc id an ex Gang member, lived with drugs and guns, but then somehow he forgot his way? litterally just trust everyone. guards down. and dumb too. so dumb. it's all bs. trash, garbage, dogsht. im so mad and disappointed rn. usually i'd feel bad if i curse like thia, but this author deserve it. u let me down big time

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ovrseer
ovrseerLv12

but you went on to read up to ch 252? idk seems like your indecisive.

Yunick
YunickLv5

clearly first 130 chapters were good he said after 130 is going downhill so he needs to keep reading to get to the bad parts or what you want him to stop reading at chapter 131??

ovrseer:but you went on to read up to ch 252? idk seems like your indecisive.
ovrseer
ovrseerLv12

What're you on about? He literally just listed off all of the parts he thought was bad from the latest chapters which is 120 chapters later btw. For someone calling the novel "bs, trash, garbage, dogsh*t" I would expect them to drop it. And why would he need to read on to the bad parts if he clearly says he doesn't like it anymore?

Yunick:clearly first 130 chapters were good he said after 130 is going downhill so he needs to keep reading to get to the bad parts or what you want him to stop reading at chapter 131??
RealBanana19
RealBanana19Lv15

1.) You don’t get to decide what OP want/ do not want to. It is his right to read further and find out whether it is still going downhill or not. That 130 mark he mentioned as a landmark. Meaning After that OP experienced the cons he mentioned. 2.) This is a public domain and authors who post here expect negative criticism. If any author or reader says otherwise then sorry this is a wrong job/ activity for them. Sure the OP overreacted but it is what it is. You need to have a heart to not take these comments personally but reflect on the concerns OP comment contains.

ovrseer:What're you on about? He literally just listed off all of the parts he thought was bad from the latest chapters which is 120 chapters later btw. For someone calling the novel "bs, trash, garbage, dogsh*t" I would expect them to drop it. And why would he need to read on to the bad parts if he clearly says he doesn't like it anymore?
ovrseer
ovrseerLv12

1. When did I decide what he should do? I clearly said I would expect him to drop it after all those foul words he dropped but again that’s his choice not mine. My last sentence was a question, not a rhetorical one either. 2. My original comment wasn’t implying he shouldn’t have read it, I was saying that he was indecisive with his choice. It doesn’t automatically mean a bad thing, like the word means he doesn’t know if he still likes it or not, and is still making a choice. No need to get butt hurt. 3. Obviously this is a public domain and the Authors will receive criticism, but that also means that if you comment, you should also be ready for people to reply to your comments with their own opinions/thoughts.

RealBanana19:1.) You don’t get to decide what OP want/ do not want to. It is his right to read further and find out whether it is still going downhill or not. That 130 mark he mentioned as a landmark. Meaning After that OP experienced the cons he mentioned. 2.) This is a public domain and authors who post here expect negative criticism. If any author or reader says otherwise then sorry this is a wrong job/ activity for them. Sure the OP overreacted but it is what it is. You need to have a heart to not take these comments personally but reflect on the concerns OP comment contains.
RealBanana19
RealBanana19Lv15

1.) There is no question mark so thought your were stating the point. 2.) Sorry but for some reason when a 3rd person read that comment it sounded like you are insinuating him indecessive. 3.) yeah but the authors/readers should provide their opinions / thoughts about the criticism but not about the person.

ovrseer:1. When did I decide what he should do? I clearly said I would expect him to drop it after all those foul words he dropped but again that’s his choice not mine. My last sentence was a question, not a rhetorical one either. 2. My original comment wasn’t implying he shouldn’t have read it, I was saying that he was indecisive with his choice. It doesn’t automatically mean a bad thing, like the word means he doesn’t know if he still likes it or not, and is still making a choice. No need to get butt hurt. 3. Obviously this is a public domain and the Authors will receive criticism, but that also means that if you comment, you should also be ready for people to reply to your comments with their own opinions/thoughts.
ovrseer
ovrseerLv12

Alright you seem chill. There was a question mark at the last sentence. I was calling him indecisive but purely out of jokes. But yea, I understand that we should have criticism

RealBanana19:1.) There is no question mark so thought your were stating the point. 2.) Sorry but for some reason when a 3rd person read that comment it sounded like you are insinuating him indecessive. 3.) yeah but the authors/readers should provide their opinions / thoughts about the criticism but not about the person.
RealBanana19
RealBanana19Lv15

Yeah man. At the end of day you and me want to read good book. I can agree with the OP though. Post 150 chapters, it is becoming too much drama. I want any author to read the review gather the criticism and write good storyline. Criticism is the best thing any content creator could have. It acts test case for these authors but very few leverage this. Hope this author is different.

ovrseer:Alright you seem chill. There was a question mark at the last sentence. I was calling him indecisive but purely out of jokes. But yea, I understand that we should have criticism
indiferente
indiferenteLv4

lol i sill didn read, but your review was fun. I already got myself almost breaking the screen because some authors destroys their own stories

mukomi
mukomiLv14

Oh Predictable? Then I’m guessing you’ve read similar works to this? Kindly asking for a recommendation I loved this book so much i want to eead something similar

Soothsayer_99
Soothsayer_99Lv3

If you want consistant and improving quality, check my novel!

SirManga
SirMangaLv2

oh god! savage

Soothsayer_99:If you want consistant and improving quality, check my novel!
DZsTheOnlyWay
DZsTheOnlyWayLv13

I think you really live up to your name man..

Jangmi08
Jangmi08Lv11

hey now, no need to be like that. It's true that you can't do that to another person's work. But it's not like the OP didn't read the novel. He read the novel and became greatly disappointed. There are people somewhat agreeing that the plot became somewhat bad along the way. And true, the OP should've used other nicer words perhaps. But it is OP's rights to express his opinions. And the OP didn't target the author, it is more on the story itself. And how the OP is disappointed. Perhaps the OP was excited and loved the novel at first and then those chapters happened. Don't attack OP saying he can't even write as good as this novel, nuh-uh. You don't know that. We don't know the OP. Just comment on his comment, not the person.

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Jangmi08
Jangmi08Lv11

hey now, don't attack personally. The OP didn't even attack the author personally. Only the novel. Be nice please. Perhaps the OP might have used better words to express his disappointment, but that does not mean you can attack the OP like that. The OP was just expressing his thoughts and his disappointment in the novel. And the OP read the novel at least, and not just spreading hate randomly. I write novels myself, though I didn't post it here yet, but criticism is something that an author can learn from. The author can use it to look back and think, what might have gone wrong? and what can the author do to improve? you can criticize the OP's comment or the wording, but don't attack the OP personally. That's just wrong. i'm sorry if, I might've offend you. But I just feel bad at your comment because I didn't read any personal attack from the OP. And the OP just expresses his opinion about the novel.

DZsTheOnlyWay:I think you really live up to your name man..
DZsTheOnlyWay
DZsTheOnlyWayLv13

He literally said that its garbage and that the author doesnt have creativity, is that criticism? Really? Its just looks like he is venturing his anger about the book saying this mean words.. And just to clarify, he chose his own username 👍

Jangmi08:hey now, don't attack personally. The OP didn't even attack the author personally. Only the novel. Be nice please. Perhaps the OP might have used better words to express his disappointment, but that does not mean you can attack the OP like that. The OP was just expressing his thoughts and his disappointment in the novel. And the OP read the novel at least, and not just spreading hate randomly. I write novels myself, though I didn't post it here yet, but criticism is something that an author can learn from. The author can use it to look back and think, what might have gone wrong? and what can the author do to improve? you can criticize the OP's comment or the wording, but don't attack the OP personally. That's just wrong. i'm sorry if, I might've offend you. But I just feel bad at your comment because I didn't read any personal attack from the OP. And the OP just expresses his opinion about the novel.
SK_MINNY
SK_MINNYLv3

Thanks for the correction. And to the OP I'm sorry for speaking like that. It's just, I think this is a good novel. Sure June strayed from his gangster life and all. Anyways, I hope you accept this apology. And I think SandKastle is doing a great job.👍

Jangmi08:hey now, no need to be like that. It's true that you can't do that to another person's work. But it's not like the OP didn't read the novel. He read the novel and became greatly disappointed. There are people somewhat agreeing that the plot became somewhat bad along the way. And true, the OP should've used other nicer words perhaps. But it is OP's rights to express his opinions. And the OP didn't target the author, it is more on the story itself. And how the OP is disappointed. Perhaps the OP was excited and loved the novel at first and then those chapters happened. Don't attack OP saying he can't even write as good as this novel, nuh-uh. You don't know that. We don't know the OP. Just comment on his comment, not the person.
Jangmi08
Jangmi08Lv11

yeah, he said the novel is garbage. After the certain chapters he mentioned. I think he was just utterly disappointed and was following his feelings more than thinking clearly. You know how it feels when you were reading something actually good and was excited about it? then while reading further, you got so disappointed. Personally, if this happened to me, I usually just say it out loud. I don't have the energy and courage to go and write a critic to others. And, it may sound bad, but yeah. It is criticism. If you think about it, isn't he just asking the author to think outside the box? And not follow the usual trend? at least that was what I perceived about it. As an author(well, I wrote some stories and posted on another platform), that's how I perceived it. Because I asked myself, what if I was the author when I read that. I would think. Why would OP say that? What made/prompt him to think so? How am I going to remedy/change/improve so that it won't happened again? Then I would also go and asked for another opinion, just to be sure. There are times when you write, you wouldn't notice if there's something wrong. Perhaps, because you were too focus on writing or you were distracted. And there are times that perhaps, the character you are writing, would go OOC, it's perfectly natural. It's in the process. Though I agree that the OP should have been a bit more nicer with his words and how he expressed himself and his critics.

DZsTheOnlyWay:He literally said that its garbage and that the author doesnt have creativity, is that criticism? Really? Its just looks like he is venturing his anger about the book saying this mean words.. And just to clarify, he chose his own username 👍
mukomi
mukomiLv14

Seriously though I’m still waiting for the similar works Please I cant seem to find good novels these days

Haku_Ouroboros
Haku_OuroborosLv4

El autor disfruta humillando y torturando al MC de maneras diferentes

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RealBanana19
RealBanana19Lv15

For Author’s view only. Rating 3/5: This book is in my library for 2+ months. I started reading but stopped after reading 8 or 9 chapters. I don’t have anything to read now So I gave it a push. I’m the type of reader who says for what it is. I READ A LOT(WN, Kindle, P*treon, Ibook platforms etc). So I believe I have expertise to provide technical comments on books. The book is good(kinda). Well the review is divided into pre 150 and post 150 chapters. The first half is good. The second half started good but it is going downhill real quick. Lots of folks might have mentioned positives but I’m concentrating more on cons of this book. These are my issues with the book. 1.) There is actually no growth in MC skill wise (singing, production etc) meaning he is heavily system reliant. The Author failed to show how the MC is improving by relying on system PLOT ARMOR. 2.) For an ex mafia member MC is WAY TOO PASSIVE. I mean at certain point you feel like he is a PUSHOVER. He also acts STUPID. I mean who tells the villain about his impending doom only for villain to rectify it? He might have a SAINT behavior in mafia gang but after spending so many years, he need to have that knack feeling similar to 6th sense. A different author who wrote similar genre book has implemented that 6th sense to the MC really well. If you want I can elaborate on that. We do not want a COLD BLOODED MC but MC who has a genuine head on his shoulder. 3.) Author likes to create too much UNNECESSARY AMATEUR drama. There is no point in creating that UNNECESSARY AMATEUR drama only for MC to come out unscathed. As a reader we like plot progression with main characters personal growth. Not this type of plot progression by creating unnecessary amateur drama only to get resolved few chapters later. Some drama is necessary like the 2 characters from original Joon’s past as it is presented as a necessary thread but the other stuff like the Moon/Xin is UNNECESSARY. This line of writing is predominantly written by asian authors as it gets traction from local populace but from a global WN perspective only certain section of readers stick with book and the other drop the book VERY quickly(I’m also asian BTW). Global audience LOVES DRAMA but the drama should be CREATIVE, TENSE, NAIL BITING. This style of drama is implemented by hundreds of other authors previously and most of those books failed. They wrote 1000+ chapters but all of them are a pile of junk books that folks don’t read. There are ways to rectify the point1 and 3. For point2 I already provided how. If you want to use that 6th sense thing do it subtilely and don’t force implement in a single chapter. Point 1.) In order to make MC less reliant on system, you need to portray MC in a way that he is actually putting some effort like listening to multiple genre music, going through production scores, dabbling with instruments etc. All these things at least on a macro level should be shown to readers. Your goal is for MC to become a top idol. No one becomes top idol if they are messing around and you need to show it. Point 3.) This is kinda difficult to put into words but I will try. June is the face of the book. Not Lin Zhi. Not loufa(White Tiger leader) but June. These Lin Zhi, Loufa, White Tiger gang are categorized as sub drama threads meaning they are just canon fodder drama aspects. The real drama should be how MC struggles to become an Idol like his learning process, how he gets his creative concepts, how he gets new opportunities etc. Audience aspective should be secondary. The primary concern is how he fights to get the limited opportunities as an independent artist. Currently he is in a label but his end goal should be owning his own record label and producing his own songs. I don’t know your thought process but if you want him to become a top idol, at certain point he needs to step out of Korea meaning he needs to become a global star. Honestly speaking, If comparing same genre music there are 100’s of western artists who could wipe the floor skill wise compared to asian artists because hip hop/ pop/ r&b etc are predominantly used in west similar to Basket Ball and Soccer. You can show more drama here by how MC is struggling to break into a global artist. I’ll also join discord(If available). You can ping me over there and you can also reply me here if you read the review.

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