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Nixes
NixesLv56yr
2018-01-18 14:12

Not sure how's it gonna go. Half of the Xuahuans or Xianzias are copy paste work of each other. I have hopes for it, since the name suggests something related to alchemy. But for once I would like the author to deal with alchemy as a science and not some hocus pocus. Most of the alchemist books are "Throw in Seven Petal White Lotus ( or another mouthful name ) and slowly roast it in divine fire. Once it starts liquidating throw in 1000000000000000 year ginger and heat them together. Boy, you are not making a sandwich. It's like someone's cooking after having a go on YouTube. And how are the ingredients always so uniform and same. Two petals, two roots, a piece of bark... Are all the herbs from a same template, having uniform structure}? At least have some standard measurements. Like 200g of roots and 350g of bark, heated at 1000°, for n amount of hours. It's like amteur making his morning smoothie. Anyway, hoping for a sensible book and not another WDDG or something. Fingers crossed, and a welcome in advance to another thrash and bullied MC, with 15 years delayed luck. (That's how most of the stories go?)

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DragHan
DragHanLv4

Can't agree more, but lots of people just for getting high tide,they not care plots. So Qi Dian will translated those Junk Food first. You want some high quality novels? Just waite them done

Neverlightning
NeverlightningLv5

It is alchemy (at least in the olden China) (and it's still exist today but which we call medicine)

Lord_Fifth
Lord_FifthLv4

Alchemy IS hocus pocus. Even western medicine is based on the Hocus Pocus of the past.

Nixes
NixesLv5

Not exactly. Hocus Pocus is basically meaningless talk. And western medicine wasn't exactly based on so called hocus pocus of the past. It was and is still based on observations and trial and errors. So calling it meaning less is well, stupid. It slowly evolved with increasing knowledge of the society. And several home remedies discovered way back in the past are still used today. Several.of today's medicines and methods are based on those hocus pocus of the past. Bow coming to the 'nonsense' here. Here I was referring to the alchemy which the author simply skims through. Or in other case, he makes it over complicated. Funny thing is, both don't make any sense. Like, add something and then when it liquifies , cover it with your qi and make a pill.

Lord_Fifth:Alchemy IS hocus pocus. Even western medicine is based on the Hocus Pocus of the past.
CrouchingPervert
CrouchingPervertLv5

I get what you are saying, I never really thought about it that much to best honest. I would assume that damaged or mutated herbs would be used in a different way, it's hard to say as the world is one that contains weird energies and stuff. The Author could also just be bad or lazy, who knows? We can only hope for the best I guess. Quite a lot of novels on this site have let me down so far! What is one more?

flymatyre
flymatyreLv12

How are you going to give one star based on speculation

Nixes
NixesLv5

The same way I can't give a 5 star based on speculation. Qidan is basically forcing us to rate them, despite knowing nothing about the story. In my opinion you atleast need to be 100 chapters in to give ratings. So I simply gave the lowest possible rating. It might affect the overall score, but I am helpless here. 😔

flymatyre:How are you going to give one star based on speculation
b0ss
b0ssLv5

So after reading four chapters, I realized this novel is unbearable. I'm glad I didn't vote for this copy paste bull****, honestly, it's so cliche.

Nixes:The same way I can't give a 5 star based on speculation. Qidan is basically forcing us to rate them, despite knowing nothing about the story. In my opinion you atleast need to be 100 chapters in to give ratings. So I simply gave the lowest possible rating. It might affect the overall score, but I am helpless here. 😔
b0ss
b0ssLv5

Also you're right, authors never go into detail about alchemy.

Nixes:Not exactly. Hocus Pocus is basically meaningless talk. And western medicine wasn't exactly based on so called hocus pocus of the past. It was and is still based on observations and trial and errors. So calling it meaning less is well, stupid. It slowly evolved with increasing knowledge of the society. And several home remedies discovered way back in the past are still used today. Several.of today's medicines and methods are based on those hocus pocus of the past. Bow coming to the 'nonsense' here. Here I was referring to the alchemy which the author simply skims through. Or in other case, he makes it over complicated. Funny thing is, both don't make any sense. Like, add something and then when it liquifies , cover it with your qi and make a pill.
DatGuyArti
DatGuyArtiLv7

Saddly there are many novel like that.

DreamWalker
DreamWalkerLv5

That's unfortunate... I voted for it because of the title....:(

chitatos
chitatosLv4

Haha foolish all of you Expecting high quality novel from qidian You should question your choice of life regardless

Nixes
NixesLv5

Expectations are needed to be kept, you never know when a carp might leap through the dragon gate. That sounds good...😂

chitatos:Haha foolish all of you Expecting high quality novel from qidian You should question your choice of life regardless
chitatos
chitatosLv4

I read that **** a ton of it When you see that sentence ITS better drop and move on to next novel

Nixes:Expectations are needed to be kept, you never know when a carp might leap through the dragon gate. That sounds good...😂
Nixes
NixesLv5

Lmao...that's like 90% of all Xianxias or Xuanhuans...

chitatos:I read that **** a ton of it When you see that sentence ITS better drop and move on to next novel
DevilsMocktail
DevilsMocktailLv10

the author is so damn lazy. He copy pasts his previous works making minor adjustment, adding a bit of desolate era with no world consistancy, bogus character design, awkward drama scenarious. Stellar transformation was good and i finished it whole. But this one made me suffering.

CrouchingPervert:I get what you are saying, I never really thought about it that much to best honest. I would assume that damaged or mutated herbs would be used in a different way, it's hard to say as the world is one that contains weird energies and stuff. The Author could also just be bad or lazy, who knows? We can only hope for the best I guess. Quite a lot of novels on this site have let me down so far! What is one more?
DevilsMocktail
DevilsMocktailLv10

look for sorcerers journey - one of the best novels i read so far. it's a novel about magic, but there are some common things there. throne of magical arcana - is very good to.

CrouchingPervert
CrouchingPervertLv5

I got to chapter 9 then stopped reading this one haha. It is amazingly bad, it takes a certain talent to write something like this.

DevilsMocktail:the author is so damn lazy. He copy pasts his previous works making minor adjustment, adding a bit of desolate era with no world consistancy, bogus character design, awkward drama scenarious. Stellar transformation was good and i finished it whole. But this one made me suffering.
Seronis
SeronisLv5

While measuring by grams can make sense, what if thats not how the plant grows? If its a "divine 9 leafed lavender" an obvious trait of the plant is it will always have 9 leaves. If the plant always grows the same then each leaf could have identical alchemical properties regardless of size. Larger leaves are less dense in 'energy'. For things that mention a bit, like the bark you gave as example, those items might not be active ingredients but catalysts were as long as you have 'enough' it will enable proper effects to occur. Basically worrying about trivial amounts doesnt actually make a story more scientific. On the other hand 10000000000 year old ginger _IS_ a problem in these stories. They always want levels of ingredients that make it impossible to meet the needs of the number of cultivators who supposedly use those ingredients. The SCALE of numbers used in chinese books 100% utterly fail to qualify as 'fantastical' or 'impressive' or 'awe inspiring'. The only thing numbers at those scales can be is ABSURD which detracts from a story, not enhances it.

Nixes
NixesLv5

I agree on this matter. But here weight was referring to an standard scale. In matters such as 9 leaf plants, there is not much you can do. But it's basically impossible for them to be the same. Of course this won't affect the overall result, as the author tend to simply label it under lower efficacy pill or low toxin pill. For example, usually Therese 'numerical' plants tend to have age related growth. Like 1 leaf in 100 years. But what about the 199 one? Even ignoring that, not all leaves will be the same. Ofcourse they tend to ignore this point, and make it as such all the plants are same. The same energy quotient, the same size, same growth pattern etc. In a grand scale, these things can be ignored, but if you are writing a novel specifically focussing on such things, it will be great if they can atleast talk about these things. And like you said, larger things contain less energy. But it can also be larger the energy, larger the plant. As having more energy the plant is growing instead of condensing it .. Well, anyway it's not like author is going to change these things. Even if he does, he's gonna have to find a balance between science and fiction. Well LOL anyway. Cya! Nixes

Seronis:While measuring by grams can make sense, what if thats not how the plant grows? If its a "divine 9 leafed lavender" an obvious trait of the plant is it will always have 9 leaves. If the plant always grows the same then each leaf could have identical alchemical properties regardless of size. Larger leaves are less dense in 'energy'. For things that mention a bit, like the bark you gave as example, those items might not be active ingredients but catalysts were as long as you have 'enough' it will enable proper effects to occur. Basically worrying about trivial amounts doesnt actually make a story more scientific. On the other hand 10000000000 year old ginger _IS_ a problem in these stories. They always want levels of ingredients that make it impossible to meet the needs of the number of cultivators who supposedly use those ingredients. The SCALE of numbers used in chinese books 100% utterly fail to qualify as 'fantastical' or 'impressive' or 'awe inspiring'. The only thing numbers at those scales can be is ABSURD which detracts from a story, not enhances it.
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