ok lucien is new leylin fanlier , he still pure.. but i bet in the end he will step in the darkness and become cold blooded struggling to survive and seeking power the story are great, the con for me is the explanation abaout spell is lacking, you know what? i enjoy his story about his carrier in music than his path on become a magus
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LIKEI'm not even sure about what would happen in the end since it's a long story. I personally hope he would not become a dark man, lol.
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Emagstar:I'm not sure I remember Leylin ever being pure... He was pretty evil from the get go.
I'm pretty sure he was doing research on torturing souls while he was a first level acolyte; it the town he visits while he leaves that first sect to avoid the brewing war. Torturing souls is defo evil.
Randomlyrandom:Practical, scientific, a bit off in the head, yes.... Evil NOđđđ
Have you ever killed an ant or a fly, maybe crushed a flower? If so To some you would be considered evil đ when you read a novel it would be best if you try to see things from the view points of the world the author envisioned, not ours đ
Emagstar:I'm pretty sure he was doing research on torturing souls while he was a first level acolyte; it the town he visits while he leaves that first sect to avoid the brewing war. Torturing souls is defo evil.
Good and evil are simply things society, religion, we our sellers,and our surroundings deem as such. So I'm a world where normal people are only seen as ants to the magus what he did was no worse than a child polling an đ.
Emagstar:I'm pretty sure he was doing research on torturing souls while he was a first level acolyte; it the town he visits while he leaves that first sect to avoid the brewing war. Torturing souls is defo evil.
Randomlyrandom:Good and evil are simply things society, religion, we our sellers,and our surroundings deem as such. So I'm a world where normal people are only seen as ants to the magus what he did was no worse than a child polling an đ.
Randomlyrandom:Good and evil are simply things society, religion, we our sellers,and our surroundings deem as such. So I'm a world where normal people are only seen as ants to the magus what he did was no worse than a child polling an đ.
How can you compare the crushing of insignificant being to torching souls which is very much like what devils are known for doing. So youâre telling me that a devil is neither a good or bad man because society has its standards and not everything should follow those standards? đ mate it hasnât got to do with societies way of looking at things itâs common sense and someone willing to torture souls, play with a kids destiny and kill all in their way for the sake of personal benefits is both selfish and evil albeit he has moments where he isnât so cold hearted but that doesnât remove the increasing amount of sins he has committed btw could people not so shamelessly attatch a plagerised non unique book such as WMW with this carefully sculpted work of art I can imagine how degrading it would look to be đ¤
Randomlyrandom:Have you ever killed an ant or a fly, maybe crushed a flower? If so To some you would be considered evil đ when you read a novel it would be best if you try to see things from the view points of the world the author envisioned, not ours đ
Crushing of insignificant brings..... Well that's exactly what magus view normal humans in that world as plain insignificant brings, so you kinda made my point. đ If you want to take it further then according to some beliefs all life has a soul therefore killing an ant and killing a person is equally sinful. The difference is the value we place on each life is different depending on the value and teachings we grew up believing in.
Ibuprofen:How can you compare the crushing of insignificant being to torching souls which is very much like what devils are known for doing. So youâre telling me that a devil is neither a good or bad man because society has its standards and not everything should follow those standards? đ mate it hasnât got to do with societies way of looking at things itâs common sense and someone willing to torture souls, play with a kids destiny and kill all in their way for the sake of personal benefits is both selfish and evil albeit he has moments where he isnât so cold hearted but that doesnât remove the increasing amount of sins he has committed btw could people not so shamelessly attatch a plagerised non unique book such as WMW with this carefully sculpted work of art I can imagine how degrading it would look to be đ¤
Thatâs such an ignorant comment he didnât just commit sinful acts to ant like exsistances, he also did it to wizards ect, so no I didnât support your argument I debunked it đ you canât say that based on our social standards and then proceed to say that itâs in their world view and even so youâre still wrong it still makes him evil đ¨âđ¨ Uhm duh that was my point in the first place, you canât commit acts of sin then disregard it as such because theyâre lesser beings so really youâve supported what Iâve said đ¤ even though I was talking about him lacking any care for those around him unless it benefits him so really heâs still evil and youâre still wrong âşď¸
Randomlyrandom:Crushing of insignificant brings..... Well that's exactly what magus view normal humans in that world as plain insignificant brings, so you kinda made my point. đ If you want to take it further then according to some beliefs all life has a soul therefore killing an ant and killing a person is equally sinful. The difference is the value we place on each life is different depending on the value and teachings we grew up believing in.
... My point was that as outsiders we have no right to judge. Since we do not live in accordance to the set rules in that universe. And in that world the only rule and law that matters is power.
Ibuprofen:Thatâs such an ignorant comment he didnât just commit sinful acts to ant like exsistances, he also did it to wizards ect, so no I didnât support your argument I debunked it đ you canât say that based on our social standards and then proceed to say that itâs in their world view and even so youâre still wrong it still makes him evil đ¨âđ¨ Uhm duh that was my point in the first place, you canât commit acts of sin then disregard it as such because theyâre lesser beings so really youâve supported what Iâve said đ¤ even though I was talking about him lacking any care for those around him unless it benefits him so really heâs still evil and youâre still wrong âşď¸
The reason you say it's evil is because of the values you have as a person of modern society but did you not notice in the last war at the end the beings of law might have felt frustrated, but they didn't really care for how he did it but the fact that what they all wished to accomplish was in front of them.
Ibuprofen:Thatâs such an ignorant comment he didnât just commit sinful acts to ant like exsistances, he also did it to wizards ect, so no I didnât support your argument I debunked it đ you canât say that based on our social standards and then proceed to say that itâs in their world view and even so youâre still wrong it still makes him evil đ¨âđ¨ Uhm duh that was my point in the first place, you canât commit acts of sin then disregard it as such because theyâre lesser beings so really youâve supported what Iâve said đ¤ even though I was talking about him lacking any care for those around him unless it benefits him so really heâs still evil and youâre still wrong âşď¸
Are you kidding, how are you still trying to argue your point đ like no offence but Iâm pretty sure if you read the book he aligned with all the levels of hell, killed millions of people before he even ascended and has tortured souls before. These are only some of the things heâs done! Iâm not saying I dislike his character, I actually loved his personality it was a good change from the usual happy go lucky persona most MCâs will have, what Iâm saying is that he was and still is evil no matter if you look at it as someone with morality from a stand point of our society or not! Also may I remind you that he came from a world similar to ours! You could say from the exact same universe but in the future so in saying that his moral character from the get go was a w*nker but he wouldnât go out of his way to be one.
Randomlyrandom:The reason you say it's evil is because of the values you have as a person of modern society but did you not notice in the last war at the end the beings of law might have felt frustrated, but they didn't really care for how he did it but the fact that what they all wished to accomplish was in front of them.
Err no,I think he is fucking insane, but like you said he is originally from a futuristic world and a mad scientist type too. But remember the time he spent in that world compared to the magus/God world is compatibly short so you can't count that as much in terms of what shaped his personality
Ibuprofen:Are you kidding, how are you still trying to argue your point đ like no offence but Iâm pretty sure if you read the book he aligned with all the levels of hell, killed millions of people before he even ascended and has tortured souls before. These are only some of the things heâs done! Iâm not saying I dislike his character, I actually loved his personality it was a good change from the usual happy go lucky persona most MCâs will have, what Iâm saying is that he was and still is evil no matter if you look at it as someone with morality from a stand point of our society or not! Also may I remind you that he came from a world similar to ours! You could say from the exact same universe but in the future so in saying that his moral character from the get go was a w*nker but he wouldnât go out of his way to be one.
He was just faithful to his beliefs and had the power to achieve his goals Wich conforms to the logic of magus. Again I as a person think if someone like him truly existed he would be the personification of evil, but within the world if the story I can't really judge him as so đ
Ibuprofen:Are you kidding, how are you still trying to argue your point đ like no offence but Iâm pretty sure if you read the book he aligned with all the levels of hell, killed millions of people before he even ascended and has tortured souls before. These are only some of the things heâs done! Iâm not saying I dislike his character, I actually loved his personality it was a good change from the usual happy go lucky persona most MCâs will have, what Iâm saying is that he was and still is evil no matter if you look at it as someone with morality from a stand point of our society or not! Also may I remind you that he came from a world similar to ours! You could say from the exact same universe but in the future so in saying that his moral character from the get go was a w*nker but he wouldnât go out of his way to be one.
Randomlyrandom:He was just faithful to his beliefs and had the power to achieve his goals Wich conforms to the logic of magus. Again I as a person think if someone like him truly existed he would be the personification of evil, but within the world if the story I can't really judge him as so đ
Laylin is not evil. But MORE of evil! He is the root of evil! So you thing for a dad to rob in the street for madical fee his daugther is not evil? Laylin as rasional man, chose a path direct way from starting point to desired goal disregard is it evil or is it not. The fact he can finish his path is because he is evil. "And one more thing. If someone hurt you then he is evil, if not then this not the not evil." This is line of thinking rufian on the street. So, even murderer and old blooded **kopat
Randomlyrandom:He was just faithful to his beliefs and had the power to achieve his goals Wich conforms to the logic of magus. Again I as a person think if someone like him truly existed he would be the personification of evil, but within the world if the story I can't really judge him as so đ