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Andrey_MLv32yr
2022-11-10 08:23

awesomeness. best fight scenes I've ever read, even better than published novels. good use of foreshadowing. The plot twists feel super organic, not too surprising such that it makes no sense, but just the right amount to keep me on the edge of my seat. I normally don't offer any suggestions since most of what I read on this site has so many problems it's useless to address them all, but I feel like this is so good that we can actually do some degree of critical analysis. I think the symbolism could use some small tweaking. the thing about the red cloud I'm still not sure what it's supposed to represent. it's supposed to show the bloody red mist during war, but somehow I feel like the author is trying to portray it as a symbol of hope? the contrast/juxtaposition between heavy non-stop rain and clear weather also feels unclear. I would also suggest the author to improve character development. Although I do know that they are all extremely cute, I still don't really know all that much about nagato, konan, and yahiko besides nagato is shy, konan is encouraging, and yahiko is loyal and ambitious. Especially lacking is the character development of akashi's teacher. When I read that part about the teacher's death, I felt only a small amount of sadness, but otherwise didn't think there was much significance behind it. I think the author is still used to writing one piece where death is treated like mere casualties on the protagonist's path to grow stronger, but the feel around Naruto is totally different. Every death has a meaning, and every situation is connected to a larger plot, not just the protagonist's path of glory. From what I've seen so far (ch 47), lots of the story seems disconnected and that string weaving all the parts masterfully together is still not quite there yet. what I'm saying is of course still not set in stone and the author could continue improving the story and eventually connect everything together, turning this awesome fanfic into a paragon of fanfiction. Even if it doesn't become such a masterpiece, it is still definitely a great, incredibly entertaining read and I'm looking forward to the author's steady improvement. Bravo, BravoBuds.

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BravoBuds
BravoBudsAuthor

Yeah, thanks for the thorough review. I agree that the story feels disconnected; it primarily stemmed from me rushing the plot too fast. I will definitely adhere to your advice when continuing this story, and please do not hesitate to point out any error that I may have made. 👍

Rillik
RillikLv4

you really did one piece dirty with that one... every death was significant and emotional, I don't see anyone in Naruto mentally breaking down and losing motivation to live after someone important died or being so traumatized that they lose the motivation to fight and resist well except maybe Tsunade but eh, obviously Naruto has its sad moments but it doesn't mean you gotta disrespect one piece, heck death rarely happens in one Piece but it hits hard for the character in that story, each show has thier own sad moments and both use it to fuel to make the characters either mentally broken or help them grow, again Naruto is very sad but it doesn't mean one piece doesn't have sad moments, peace✌️

Andrey_M
Andrey_MLv3

my point is that one piece doesn't have that much plot progression. Each saga can pretty much be a standalone story and everything before it barely matters. After the saga ends, no one really cares. Even Ace, who was pretty much the deuteragonist in the Summit War saga, is basically irrelevant now. You might care about him, but the plot doesn't. This goes for everything in One Piece, not just deaths. I'm not saying that makes the story bad (though i personally don't enjoy it that much), but that's just the way the story is designed; it's how the author decided to write it keeping in mind how long it is and the retention span of his audience. Naruto is written vastly differently, and since most fanfics including this one writes similarly to the source material in order to fit in with the setting and background, I wanted to point that out, not insult One Piece.

Rillik:you really did one piece dirty with that one... every death was significant and emotional, I don't see anyone in Naruto mentally breaking down and losing motivation to live after someone important died or being so traumatized that they lose the motivation to fight and resist well except maybe Tsunade but eh, obviously Naruto has its sad moments but it doesn't mean you gotta disrespect one piece, heck death rarely happens in one Piece but it hits hard for the character in that story, each show has thier own sad moments and both use it to fuel to make the characters either mentally broken or help them grow, again Naruto is very sad but it doesn't mean one piece doesn't have sad moments, peace✌️
Rillik
RillikLv4

hmmmm although it's slow it doesn't mean the previous arcs were meaningless, here's why HEAVY SPOILER AHEAD The arlong arc has many ties to fishman arc and has a heavy topic around racism, the baratia arc is heavily tied to the whole cake island arc due to Sanji's family issues, those are just minor examples,logue town arc was used as a flashback tool multiple times both as in dressrosa arc to form the Grand fleet of Luffy which is one of the reasons why he is labeled as an yonko while kid and law aren't and more lore implications of the key figures you say ace became meaningless?smh you probably don't even read one piece anymore, His death became the connection point for Luffy and Tama, Yamato (both somewhat key figures in wano), awakening sabo's memories and connecting the Whitebeard pirates to Luffy who helped them in the wano arc when they were in need of help, do you really think the whitebeard pirates would have helped even though they didn't before due to Odin's request to whitebeard and Rogers, the whole wano arc could have been over if both Roger and whitebeard pirates helped again please don't try to tell me what the author of one piece thinks when you clearly don't understand how the story flow and plot on one piece works, I respect Naruto but almost everything is filled with filler, good side characters don't get enough screentime except maybe in the fillers, like bruh one piece literally gives a flashback of senior punk a seemingly weird looking character who isn't even a main villain in the dressrosa arc I am not saying Naruto doesn't but still both have similarities when it comes to connecting with characters, don't believe me? like if you can't see ace's usefulness then remember jiraiya sensei is the key connection between Naruto and nagato and which caused them to be connected in a way that Naruto could open nagato up for his talk no jutsu to work on, again no disrespect to jiraiya, for each respective series ace and jiraiya are the key figures who broke everyone emotionally again one piece's each arc has links with each other in many ways , for example you would think long ring long arc seems like a meaningless goofy arc until you look at the implications of how it plays out and how it has so many implications and hints related to joy boy,one piece just know I am not attacking you or your tastes but rather your views on one piece, please reconsider the views on how one piece arcs works, I am not denying it's slow paced but it doesn't mean the characters and arcs are meaningless everything has hidden messages even the chapter numbers on how it plays out in the Japanese version, don't believe me? just check any popular one piece theory video, you would notice almost all of them refer back to many implications, hints etc found in the chapter names,numbers and panels, even oda stated himself about the chapter numbers wording

Andrey_M:my point is that one piece doesn't have that much plot progression. Each saga can pretty much be a standalone story and everything before it barely matters. After the saga ends, no one really cares. Even Ace, who was pretty much the deuteragonist in the Summit War saga, is basically irrelevant now. You might care about him, but the plot doesn't. This goes for everything in One Piece, not just deaths. I'm not saying that makes the story bad (though i personally don't enjoy it that much), but that's just the way the story is designed; it's how the author decided to write it keeping in mind how long it is and the retention span of his audience. Naruto is written vastly differently, and since most fanfics including this one writes similarly to the source material in order to fit in with the setting and background, I wanted to point that out, not insult One Piece.
Andrey_M
Andrey_MLv3

I don't think you understand "meaningless." Nothing is truly meaningless, and thus the word is always used as a hyperbole. So when I say previous sagas are "meaningless," I'm saying that they do not need to be there to create a complete story. I'm not sure what you're trying to argue since all the evidence you gave for your argument (?) is about how lots of things are "heavily tied," "implied," "referenced," and there are a lot of flashbacks and hidden messages? I don't think any of these references or implications matter to the plot. I'm only offering advice to the author of this fanfic by referencing One Piece and how he is writing a Naruto fanfic as a One Piece fanfic. However, I feel like I am talking to a brick wall here with you ignoring everything I said except for three words: "One," Piece," and "meaningless." The more we discuss this, the more you start to take what I say as a personal insult to One Piece and thereby yourself as a One Piece fan. Unless you stop taking what I say so personally, I am going to respectfully back away from this discussion turned argument.

Rillik:hmmmm although it's slow it doesn't mean the previous arcs were meaningless, here's why HEAVY SPOILER AHEAD The arlong arc has many ties to fishman arc and has a heavy topic around racism, the baratia arc is heavily tied to the whole cake island arc due to Sanji's family issues, those are just minor examples,logue town arc was used as a flashback tool multiple times both as in dressrosa arc to form the Grand fleet of Luffy which is one of the reasons why he is labeled as an yonko while kid and law aren't and more lore implications of the key figures you say ace became meaningless?smh you probably don't even read one piece anymore, His death became the connection point for Luffy and Tama, Yamato (both somewhat key figures in wano), awakening sabo's memories and connecting the Whitebeard pirates to Luffy who helped them in the wano arc when they were in need of help, do you really think the whitebeard pirates would have helped even though they didn't before due to Odin's request to whitebeard and Rogers, the whole wano arc could have been over if both Roger and whitebeard pirates helped again please don't try to tell me what the author of one piece thinks when you clearly don't understand how the story flow and plot on one piece works, I respect Naruto but almost everything is filled with filler, good side characters don't get enough screentime except maybe in the fillers, like bruh one piece literally gives a flashback of senior punk a seemingly weird looking character who isn't even a main villain in the dressrosa arc I am not saying Naruto doesn't but still both have similarities when it comes to connecting with characters, don't believe me? like if you can't see ace's usefulness then remember jiraiya sensei is the key connection between Naruto and nagato and which caused them to be connected in a way that Naruto could open nagato up for his talk no jutsu to work on, again no disrespect to jiraiya, for each respective series ace and jiraiya are the key figures who broke everyone emotionally again one piece's each arc has links with each other in many ways , for example you would think long ring long arc seems like a meaningless goofy arc until you look at the implications of how it plays out and how it has so many implications and hints related to joy boy,one piece just know I am not attacking you or your tastes but rather your views on one piece, please reconsider the views on how one piece arcs works, I am not denying it's slow paced but it doesn't mean the characters and arcs are meaningless everything has hidden messages even the chapter numbers on how it plays out in the Japanese version, don't believe me? just check any popular one piece theory video, you would notice almost all of them refer back to many implications, hints etc found in the chapter names,numbers and panels, even oda stated himself about the chapter numbers wording
Rillik
RillikLv4

fair, I thought you meant one piece as a whole is meaningless, I forgot to take into account you were merely giving feedback to the author about how to better himself on this specific fanfic , sorry about that, I misunderstood what you meant and hyperzoned on the "key things" and thinking you were insulting one piece, which I understand everyone has the right to have thier opinion, as such I tried to reason by pointing out what is great about the story one piece rather than taking into account this is a fanfic where those things don't really matter

Andrey_M:I don't think you understand "meaningless." Nothing is truly meaningless, and thus the word is always used as a hyperbole. So when I say previous sagas are "meaningless," I'm saying that they do not need to be there to create a complete story. I'm not sure what you're trying to argue since all the evidence you gave for your argument (?) is about how lots of things are "heavily tied," "implied," "referenced," and there are a lot of flashbacks and hidden messages? I don't think any of these references or implications matter to the plot. I'm only offering advice to the author of this fanfic by referencing One Piece and how he is writing a Naruto fanfic as a One Piece fanfic. However, I feel like I am talking to a brick wall here with you ignoring everything I said except for three words: "One," Piece," and "meaningless." The more we discuss this, the more you start to take what I say as a personal insult to One Piece and thereby yourself as a One Piece fan. Unless you stop taking what I say so personally, I am going to respectfully back away from this discussion turned argument.
the_racist_one
the_racist_oneLv4

Rillik:you really did one piece dirty with that one... every death was significant and emotional, I don't see anyone in Naruto mentally breaking down and losing motivation to live after someone important died or being so traumatized that they lose the motivation to fight and resist well except maybe Tsunade but eh, obviously Naruto has its sad moments but it doesn't mean you gotta disrespect one piece, heck death rarely happens in one Piece but it hits hard for the character in that story, each show has thier own sad moments and both use it to fuel to make the characters either mentally broken or help them grow, again Naruto is very sad but it doesn't mean one piece doesn't have sad moments, peace✌️
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