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I_Mstrbte_to_Hntai
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Finally someone understands. In novels it's always magic has limitless potential. But science is the same and much more in my opinion, seeing as they can do the same things just by the innovations of the mind, which in my opinion is a much more amazing phenomenon than magic

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Inspired Inventor (Tensura AU)

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Nyx_Celeste
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Magic is a shortcut to problems that is deemed hard to overcome. Science is a path to many roads that overcome the challenges if it can be truly understand. One thing that Science give us that it gives us thoughts, ideas and expand our horizon of better understanding everything. In Nasuverse/Fate franchise, magecraft while acts like magic, it's another name of Science through understanding the process. Magic and Science are two sides of the coins on this anime multiverse. It can be merged or Science can become the concept of Magic that extended beyond the fabric of logic and reality.

Fallen_Michael
Fallen_MichaelLv4Fallen_Michael

Yeah, unless the magic is extremely broken, under most circumstances technology is the better long term investment. Magic can get you power fast but is more limited than technology which over time goes way farther.

DaoistJhtAYc
DaoistJhtAYcLv4DaoistJhtAYc

I mean i don’t think that’s even a thing considering magic as long as the person continue to study it can always keep improving i….there’s a reason there are multiple different gods and upper beings of magi….everyone here is only looking at how most mc learn magic not how it was discovered in the first place, in all anime, Manga or novel with magic most spells or moves or whatever you wanna call them was created during ancient times where people had no choice but to study, create and experiment with them over lifetimes just to make them

Fallen_Michael:Yeah, unless the magic is extremely broken, under most circumstances technology is the better long term investment. Magic can get you power fast but is more limited than technology which over time goes way farther.
Fallen_Michael
Fallen_MichaelLv4Fallen_Michael

You missed my entire point. Your argument doesn’t function either. Your own argument can be used against you. Technology does the exact same thing, your idea of growth is literally the whole point of technology. It’s not a good argument.

DaoistJhtAYc:I mean i don’t think that’s even a thing considering magic as long as the person continue to study it can always keep improving i….there’s a reason there are multiple different gods and upper beings of magi….everyone here is only looking at how most mc learn magic not how it was discovered in the first place, in all anime, Manga or novel with magic most spells or moves or whatever you wanna call them was created during ancient times where people had no choice but to study, create and experiment with them over lifetimes just to make them
DaoistJhtAYc
DaoistJhtAYcLv4DaoistJhtAYc

Not really since everyone keep looking at magic as some automatic power up which is never us unless someone stop giving af and is content with what they learn from someone else…people keep separating them like they aren’t one and the same is most cases, Merlin spent a lifetime or sometimes lifetimes perfecting his magic theory and spells, the first sorcerer supreme spent hundreds of years perfecting his magic which is a combination of dimensional energy and science/math and over time other people also improved it except for his original spells only he knew…my point is everything is can be a shortcut if you stop improving it even technology.. it’s like getting the rings from the mandarin but not studying how to use them or making them better, his rings was some of the advanced technology in most marvel universes so the whole point is magic and technology usually go hand and hand but have unlimited potential as long as there is someone who wants to improve them.. what you said was magic has a limit that was your point

Fallen_Michael:You missed my entire point. Your argument doesn’t function either. Your own argument can be used against you. Technology does the exact same thing, your idea of growth is literally the whole point of technology. It’s not a good argument.
SilentWarrior
SilentWarriorLv4SilentWarrior

that is true although the magic in tensura also has the influence of science like the nuclear magics that is why the majority of the things science can do magic can also do as long the caster understand the logic and principles of it, specifically the all of creation skill lets you understand or analyze any non concealed phenomenon whether it is magic or science(also I haven't read the fanfic yet)

Mans_1_Not_2_Hot_3
Mans_1_Not_2_Hot_3Lv10Mans_1_Not_2_Hot_3

You can't become a God using science though

Mans_1_Not_2_Hot_3
Mans_1_Not_2_Hot_3Lv10Mans_1_Not_2_Hot_3

also how would you even design a weapon (using science) that could be used to kill Gods

Mans_1_Not_2_Hot_3:You can't become a God using science though
I_Mstrbte_to_Hntai
I_Mstrbte_to_HntaiLv1I_Mstrbte_to_Hntai

Yeah, yes you can, the problem is people thinking within fantasy that science is limiting, the only problem is that they arent smart enough.

Mans_1_Not_2_Hot_3:You can't become a God using science though
Mans_1_Not_2_Hot_3
Mans_1_Not_2_Hot_3Lv10Mans_1_Not_2_Hot_3

Please enlighten me, science (and I say this in the most simplest way possible) is the study of nature and the world itself. If you can get powers from studying nature and the world then I might have to become a scientist myself

I_Mstrbte_to_Hntai:Yeah, yes you can, the problem is people thinking within fantasy that science is limiting, the only problem is that they arent smart enough.
unit_201
unit_201Authorunit_201

Actually, Clarke's Third Law states that "sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from Magic." There also exists the controversial Omega Point Theory, where it is stated that everything in the Universe spirals towards a final point of unification. This idea of is further extrapolated by Frank J Tipler in his Omega Point Cosmology, basically where he states that quantum mechanic is inconsistent unless the future of every point in spacetime has an intelligent observer to collapse the wavefunction. This ensures that the intelligent observer has a near godlike ability to perform an unbounded series of observations in a finite amount of time.

Mans_1_Not_2_Hot_3:You can't become a God using science though
unit_201
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It really depends on what kind of God are you talking about here. The easiest way is to see God as an idea, and how do you kill an idea? You make people forget about it. Now, assuming if you're talking about 'superhuman' God, so long as they exist, they will be affected by entropy (and not just the lack of energy part). Even if they aren't affected by Physics, anything that can happen will happen if given enough time, thus if they can die, they will die. (search up 'Boltzmann Brain' for a really interesting concept that occurs due to quantum mechanics and the passage of time). Now, the hardest is if you're talking about a Creator God. We don't even know if there is a Creator God. Science in its most original form was a study of the World to get closer to God. So what would happen, if say, a species in the future discovered all there is about the world? Would they become God? There also exists the simulation theory, where people outside the simulation would be seen as 'Gods' to those inside it.

Mans_1_Not_2_Hot_3:also how would you even design a weapon (using science) that could be used to kill Gods
unit_201
unit_201Authorunit_201

We currently live in perhaps the most connected era the history of humanity, I can move to the other side of the globe in about 13 hours. We can fly, something that originally belonged in the realm of magic and mythology. In our pockets, we have the greatest reservoir of human knowledge packed into something so small that we can hold it with one hand. The average American lives better than kings and nobles of old, heck. In the past 50 years, our caloric intake has gotten to such a point where excessive eating and being fat is seen as something bad. With a firearm, so long as I can pull the trigger, I can kill anyone I want even if I'm physically disabled, something that should be impossible a millennia ago. Our medicine is so advanced that just 500 years ago, the average age that a person can expect to live to is 35, now it's in the 70s. He'll, just a century ago, women had as many children as possible since more likely than not, at least one child would die before they become an adult. Our science has wiped out deadly diseases like smallpox and many others. And now with the power of genetic engineering, we have finally started to tackle the final problem of biology: immortality. Our cultural are so progressives that kings do not rule over people, people rule over kings. In our modern society, the world is so much at our mercy that we drive whole species to extinction as a SIDE EFFECT. To someone living in the medieval ages, we might as well as be a society of GODS. That is the effect of technology and science. That is how far we have progressed. That is how we harvest power from studying the laws of nature and the world. That is why science is the master key.

Mans_1_Not_2_Hot_3:Please enlighten me, science (and I say this in the most simplest way possible) is the study of nature and the world itself. If you can get powers from studying nature and the world then I might have to become a scientist myself
Mans_1_Not_2_Hot_3
Mans_1_Not_2_Hot_3Lv10Mans_1_Not_2_Hot_3

We're no where near close to achieving immortality, you're reaching now

unit_201:We currently live in perhaps the most connected era the history of humanity, I can move to the other side of the globe in about 13 hours. We can fly, something that originally belonged in the realm of magic and mythology. In our pockets, we have the greatest reservoir of human knowledge packed into something so small that we can hold it with one hand. The average American lives better than kings and nobles of old, heck. In the past 50 years, our caloric intake has gotten to such a point where excessive eating and being fat is seen as something bad. With a firearm, so long as I can pull the trigger, I can kill anyone I want even if I'm physically disabled, something that should be impossible a millennia ago. Our medicine is so advanced that just 500 years ago, the average age that a person can expect to live to is 35, now it's in the 70s. He'll, just a century ago, women had as many children as possible since more likely than not, at least one child would die before they become an adult. Our science has wiped out deadly diseases like smallpox and many others. And now with the power of genetic engineering, we have finally started to tackle the final problem of biology: immortality. Our cultural are so progressives that kings do not rule over people, people rule over kings. In our modern society, the world is so much at our mercy that we drive whole species to extinction as a SIDE EFFECT. To someone living in the medieval ages, we might as well as be a society of GODS. That is the effect of technology and science. That is how far we have progressed. That is how we harvest power from studying the laws of nature and the world. That is why science is the master key.
unit_201
unit_201Authorunit_201

Have you been paying attention to recent life extension technology? We have started tackling the prospect of ageless immortality and is expected to happen by at least the end of this century, possibly even around ~2050. With genetic engineering, we could correct and cure so many diseases like down syndrome and alzheimer. Keep in mind that all of this is soon, like in the next few decades type of soon.

Mans_1_Not_2_Hot_3:We're no where near close to achieving immortality, you're reaching now
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Nyx_Celeste
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In Nasuverse, the Atlas Institution, one of the three organization in the Mage Association, is a facility that have developed technology far behind the modern world could accomplished. Mostly this tech are weapons of mass destruction and there's seven each of it which is labeled as Seven Taboos. The mages or tinkerers in Atlas recklessly and callously created numerous replicas of it. One of the most known and popular weapon is called the Black Barrel. This thing is an offset that function in rendering any beings with immortality to mortal. It's a weapon that can degrade the concept of infinite to finite. It has the power to kill gods permanently. There's Science at work to this thing btw. Though it's complex and applies terminology of Ether, Grains and Conceptual truth.

Mans_1_Not_2_Hot_3:also how would you even design a weapon (using science) that could be used to kill Gods
SOMMO_ARCANO
SOMMO_ARCANOLv2SOMMO_ARCANO

You can and science god is better then magic, magic there is only 1 god, science give mass production of gods

Mans_1_Not_2_Hot_3:You can't become a God using science though
Kirito_Kirigaia
Kirito_KirigaiaLv4Kirito_Kirigaia

Science and magic go hand in hand actually

Telibisyon
TelibisyonLv4Telibisyon

technology by far technology have more knowledge than magic magic only curses the user and magic is not unlimited but technology is like a nuclear reactor it can last for years fighting non stop if it was put on a strong robot while magic you need to wait to regain that magic and the user gets extremely exausted but machine donts not to mention strong aloys like gold titanium and chobham armor and other strong metals and alloys they can withstand magic attack with ease but it depends of the user of how strong magic is but you get the point have you ever read the modern cheat weapon in another wolrd? yeah that novel theres a magic machina who has a sheild capable of withstanding high level like super high level og magic think of it has the highest level tiers of magic just like overlord.The science can make SSS and magic can make permanent strength potion(I'm correct magic can make potion)magic can create fire and science does like potassium chlorate and ordinary table sugar are combined, and a drop of sulfuric acid is added as a catalyst it will cause fire and science and magic has pros and cons. and if the magic and technology combine it will be great.

Camden_D_DelGallo
Camden_D_DelGalloLv14Camden_D_DelGallo

magic is just science we dont understand, if it exists, then logic can be applied, if logic can be applied, then it is something that can be studied with science.