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Review Detail of TheLovingHusband in The Holy Chronicles of Baator

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TheLovingHusband
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Well... I'm bored so let's do a review of this novel according to my opinion. First, the development of the mc background and the world is pretty good with the interactions between characters that are not too rigid, which makes my opinion go up a bit with this fanfic. Second, in world background building adding boost in Things like Cultivation in the Magic World wasn't very good because Magic actually had more potential than Cultivation. Although Cultivation Novels were the first path I stepped on in the world of novels, I have to agree with some of the opinion of the reviewers in this fanfic that taking the path of cultivation after magic is not the right step. As for Magic has a greater potential in the story compared to cultivation, because cultivation itself is a lazy writer's step in making steps to form the power of the mc itself, because in many cultivation novels that I read, cultivation is like a ladder through which we can walk. step our feet from the bottom to the top of the stairs just by following the path of the stairs, while magic has a lot of potential for story development than cultivation which in my opinion is very monotonous where we only need time, luck, and sit in a place where a lot of energy is collected and cultivated. whereas magic couldn't do that because magic users couldn't just sit there waiting to break through that limit, magic required a huge amount of theory and complexity to take power to the next level. that's all my opinion about this novel after reading 100+ chapters, this novel is not good but also not bad, just average for someone like me who likes mc which requires complicated mind and theory to grow his strength. maybe a little suggestion for writers about novels where mc which I think is good to be an example like [DxD : Annihalation Maker, Holy Right : Ocultist in Multiverse, and E. P. I. C] that all three are very good at developing strength and personality in mc.

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True, but alas it depends on the cultivation system itself. Most of the basic ones, which could be described as Energy-Based Cultivation System where you just sit and gather energy and break through the next realm, I agree with you. But I cannot agree that all cultivation concepts don't require knowledge or amount of theory and that cultivation overall is monotonous. For example look at the cultivation system of the Warlock of the Magus World, from which I based my own for Devils, after a certain stage, energy gathering is useless and no matter how much energy you have you cannot advance further without comprehending Laws and understanding their use and mastering them. Something that I added, is that control over the Law is required to advance further, and a basic understanding of it is not enough. And this, in turn, helps someone to reach higher mastery over some branch of Magic and use a higher variety of spells or their stronger version, and once more higher mastery over various magic systems and spells helps someone to comprehend Laws faster and master them to a higher degree.

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Holy Right is a good one, and Infinite Path Endless Cosmos had sometimes too much slice of life and an enormous harem for my taste, but it was very well done and has interesting "cultivation system". Annihilation Maker, I have dropped after Akame Ga Kill, cause MC killed Esdeath... something that my fragile heart cannot take, but aside from that it is a good novel with an interesting premise.

TheLovingHusband
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Your opinion does have a point that the good world power system is quite different from other cultivation novels, that the world of magus is also one of my favorite novels. but as I said in the review above that cultivation itself is a ladder that has been set from the beginning, different from magic whose complexity causes quality mc to have to think more about increasing the existence of mc itself. understanding the law or understanding the structure of reality is also one of the complexities of the magical world itself to increase the value of a creature's existence. such as magus in Nasuverse where by understanding the structure of the world it gives Grand Caster in nasuverse Clairvoryance skills depending on how a creature understands the structure of the world itself. as an example try Dr. Manhattan which becomes a high dimensional extension by understanding the structure of the DC world itself.

Trafford:True, but alas it depends on the cultivation system itself. Most of the basic ones, which could be described as Energy-Based Cultivation System where you just sit and gather energy and break through the next realm, I agree with you. But I cannot agree that all cultivation concepts don't require knowledge or amount of theory and that cultivation overall is monotonous. For example look at the cultivation system of the Warlock of the Magus World, from which I based my own for Devils, after a certain stage, energy gathering is useless and no matter how much energy you have you cannot advance further without comprehending Laws and understanding their use and mastering them. Something that I added, is that control over the Law is required to advance further, and a basic understanding of it is not enough. And this, in turn, helps someone to reach higher mastery over some branch of Magic and use a higher variety of spells or their stronger version, and once more higher mastery over various magic systems and spells helps someone to comprehend Laws faster and master them to a higher degree.
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I have done something similar, in later Classes of Devil's System. For example Great Old Ones in my novel, usually need to understand one of the fundamental aspects of the Universe they are in, thus granting them night omnipotence against everyone that isn't on the same Lifeform Level as them. When I first started thinking about the Power System of DxD originally, and to what I would compare it, it really seemed like some kind of Energy-Based Cultivation, as an aim of everyone was to train and increase their Demonic Energy, Ki or similar things, that is why I have stylized first 8 Class from Low-Class to Super Devil on that foundation. Good Magic System was in Shinza Bansho by the way

TheLovingHusband:Your opinion does have a point that the good world power system is quite different from other cultivation novels, that the world of magus is also one of my favorite novels. but as I said in the review above that cultivation itself is a ladder that has been set from the beginning, different from magic whose complexity causes quality mc to have to think more about increasing the existence of mc itself. understanding the law or understanding the structure of reality is also one of the complexities of the magical world itself to increase the value of a creature's existence. such as magus in Nasuverse where by understanding the structure of the world it gives Grand Caster in nasuverse Clairvoryance skills depending on how a creature understands the structure of the world itself. as an example try Dr. Manhattan which becomes a high dimensional extension by understanding the structure of the DC world itself.
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I have always liked the concept of cultivation itself, sadly most cultivation novels are filled with too much face slapping, or all cultivation systems are basically the same without any differences, and act as a ladder what you described where you gather energy and reach the next realm. Though currently, I am reading one, Journey of Fate-Destroying Emperor by LazySageDao, which is pretty good, and even the cultivation system there isn't so generic compared to some like ATG. And yes, I did read till the end of the Akame Ga Kill arc in Annihilation, but when my favorite waifu is killed it is not something I can get over, but I admit, that the novel itself is very good, and power system that is partially based on evolution was very enjoying to read. About Holy Right, yeh, I cannot wait for Nasuverse Arc that would be brutal...

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TheLovingHusband
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Cultivation novels are like what I described above that cultivation is like climbing a predetermined ladder. Although there are several cultivation novels with different power systems, it's basic that cultivation must be like climbing the ladder itself. while the magic itself had to be groped in its power system. If we compare that the world of magic dxd is like a child in front of the world of magic nasuverse or toaru in the complexity that really shows the malice of the original author of dxd. If Nasuverse can be said to have matured in the world of magic according to several series that I have watched or read of his novels, then the magic world of Toaru is already old in complexity. And one more thing that caused me not to like those cultivation novels that much was the superiority poison that writers always prided themselves on being written.

Trafford:I have done something similar, in later Classes of Devil's System. For example Great Old Ones in my novel, usually need to understand one of the fundamental aspects of the Universe they are in, thus granting them night omnipotence against everyone that isn't on the same Lifeform Level as them. When I first started thinking about the Power System of DxD originally, and to what I would compare it, it really seemed like some kind of Energy-Based Cultivation, as an aim of everyone was to train and increase their Demonic Energy, Ki or similar things, that is why I have stylized first 8 Class from Low-Class to Super Devil on that foundation. Good Magic System was in Shinza Bansho by the way
TheLovingHusband
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Understanding the law in the magic world is normal as you wrote in your fanfic, but not in the way you wrote by mixing western culture (magic) and eastern culture (cultivation) itself. especially by polishing the pantheon which is not explained in the DXD series itself, it makes some readers not connect with their own knowledge. Just try not to use methods in eastern culture to increase mc's power in the dxd world, instead use things like magic rituals where mc has to use some materials to increase his physical level or magic with the image that you describe it in a western culture style not with eastern culture . As for mixing the cultivation world, you can also do it in the next world after the dxd arc is over. because in my opinion the dxd world is a world that is actually governed by the laws of the magic system and if it is combined with cultivation it will not connect because the rules of the dxd world itself are governed by the magic system. again this is your fanfic problem so it depends on your creativity because this is just my opinion.

Trafford:I have done something similar, in later Classes of Devil's System. For example Great Old Ones in my novel, usually need to understand one of the fundamental aspects of the Universe they are in, thus granting them night omnipotence against everyone that isn't on the same Lifeform Level as them. When I first started thinking about the Power System of DxD originally, and to what I would compare it, it really seemed like some kind of Energy-Based Cultivation, as an aim of everyone was to train and increase their Demonic Energy, Ki or similar things, that is why I have stylized first 8 Class from Low-Class to Super Devil on that foundation. Good Magic System was in Shinza Bansho by the way
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I am currently re-writing my Mahouka Fic, and I am tinkering a bit with Power System, to create some kind of very abstract magic system based on three Aspects: Knowledge of the Magic, Spell Model Creation, Psion Capacity Manipulation. I am also thinking about how to incorporate Laws and their usage up there differently from my current novel.

TheLovingHusband:Understanding the law in the magic world is normal as you wrote in your fanfic, but not in the way you wrote by mixing western culture (magic) and eastern culture (cultivation) itself. especially by polishing the pantheon which is not explained in the DXD series itself, it makes some readers not connect with their own knowledge. Just try not to use methods in eastern culture to increase mc's power in the dxd world, instead use things like magic rituals where mc has to use some materials to increase his physical level or magic with the image that you describe it in a western culture style not with eastern culture . As for mixing the cultivation world, you can also do it in the next world after the dxd arc is over. because in my opinion the dxd world is a world that is actually governed by the laws of the magic system and if it is combined with cultivation it will not connect because the rules of the dxd world itself are governed by the magic system. again this is your fanfic problem so it depends on your creativity because this is just my opinion.
TheLovingHusband
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Maybe by making mc evolve in several ways is up to you and to get stronger after that evolution, mc must understand the laws or structure of reality to increase his existence and through understanding the structure of reality it will make mc's power rise to another level by understanding the laws or structures of reality.

Trafford:I am currently re-writing my Mahouka Fic, and I am tinkering a bit with Power System, to create some kind of very abstract magic system based on three Aspects: Knowledge of the Magic, Spell Model Creation, Psion Capacity Manipulation. I am also thinking about how to incorporate Laws and their usage up there differently from my current novel.