and merits as well

of course webnovels that are about wish fulfillment having more commercially viable chance of making it that's just the effect of the style of monetization is that web novels in China use I was just trying to state that webnovels as a whole shouldn't be judged for the flawed Style that these monetization practices promote as there are still some good web novels out there in fact there are a lot of good ones and I am only talking how about Chinese web novels when I was replying to your third point Western webnovels are whole different can of worms and they have their own flaws as well

sorry for the spelling and grammatical mistakes I was using speech to text as I had a lot to write down

while I may be comparing two different types of literature webnovels add novels that are published in book format the prevailing and most popular style of books in China are web novels and I am talking about China here as most of the novels on this site are from them and this is the reason I find comparing the two acceptable as they are both the most popular forms of reading currently available of course the Western webnovel specifically the style of novels on this site have been increasing in recent years however published books are still significantly more popular for your second point I feel you have missed the original reason I wrote my post I was responding to the Op providing my take on his opinion that cultivation novels are just more detailed and complex then magic novels and of course I was mainly talking about western novels as that is where most magic novels come from and I was opposing the View that cultivation novels are generally more complex and unique then Western magic novels that's not to say there aren't any great and unique cultivation novels specifically cultivation novels as I was not speaking about all Eastern literature that was not commenting on the enjoyment level one would have reading those novels based on what culture they grew up in if you grow up in a culture of course novels written by that culture would resonate more with you I was just challenging the notion then magic systems in novels especially western novels are not that unique as for your third point I heartily disagree not all web novels are just about wish fulfillment there are many great webnovels out there that are not just about wish fulfillment the reason (and I don't know if I touched on this in my original comment) this is is because web novels are the most popular form of literature in China specifically and they cater more towards a repetitive and cliche plot as the more post they output the more money they make of course despite this they're still great web novels out there that do not have a cliche plots and thus saying that web novels are just wish fulfillment is underselling and doing them a disservice

here are the rest of my recommendations as I have stated before you should read reviews on them to see if it fits your preference Lightbringer a series where magic is color based and people wield the light to invoke magic with different effects Godless by Ben Peak it's about a magic system that comes from the gods except the gods are all dead so to cast Magic means that one is already been corrupted by the essence of one of the many dead gods and you will probably die a horrible death soon because while the human body is god-like enough to express magic it's not generally Godlike enough to survive its expression The horns of ruin by Tim Akers God's become Gods by doing Godly things power comes from Emily in the gods and the Deeds that made them users involved in memories of the Gods actions quoting from history's using tools and weapons that match those of their God and ranking events so they more closely match what happened at the event they are invoking Chronicles of Kydan by Simon Brown magic comes from sacrifice specifically sacrifice of something that you love kill a pet you've raced for years gain enough power for small workings kill another human you have been raised alongside your whole life and no better than any one else gain the power to wipe a city off the map what do you love enough and what would you sacrifice them for His dark materials is a good book series to read starting with a book you might be familiar with just from the name as it has had a movie adaptation The Golden Compass of course the book is a hundred times better than the movie and the serious is a whole is really good and has a very unique Magic system The Earthsea cycle series may or may not be for you if you get easily bored if there is no action four stretched peiriod Of time then book series may not be for you however out of all the books I recommend here today this is the one I must hastily recommend to really anyone who will listen as it's a wonderfully written series that explores a lot of morality and spiritually challenging topics that are centered around the metaphysical it's a very good read however as I said before if you cannot take relatively long sections of time without any high octane action the type where the protagonist overwhelms dozens of other enemies then this book is probably not for you however I would look it up on Goodreads specifically the first book as long as the one you should start from called a wizard of Earthsea if you read the reviews there and find you might not like the book based on your preferences then don't pick it up

it really depends on what your looking for a hard magic system with very clearly defined rules then read any of brandon Sanderson works. if you are looking for more unique magic systems read some of the other novels I provided for examples in my previous post. other novels really depend on what your looking for while the other novels are really unique I recommend you search online for a proper review of the I will recommend some novels and provide a short description of thier magic systems and if they interest you you should check them out

the part about it being much more detailed than magic just isn't true though it just means you haven't read the right western novels there are a lot of really good books out there with magic systems 100 times more complicated then any cultivation novel I have read for some unique examples take any of brandon Sandersons work or take the earthsea series by Ursula K Le Guin or the dying earth by Jack Vance and looking at it from a world building and lore prospective few eastern novels come close to many western novels that's not to say there are no good eastern novels that's just to say that the way eastern novels are written and marketed creates a much higher degree of cliches and repetition in their storys