Ves had never heard of the existence of true mechs.
Neither did Jovy Armalon and Vector Loban.
From the expressions of the mech designers and other people in the grand hall of the Dragon King's Palace, it appeared that no one else in the area knew anything more!
This was remarkable, because it showed that the Red Association managed to protect this secret extremely well!
Perhaps the old-timers who lived during the transition from the Age of Conquest to the Age of Mechs had been aware of them, but they collectively agreed to keep their mouths shut and let its awareness fade as the years continued to pass.
By limiting mechs to the castrated versions of neural interfaces, the ones that held the more complete versions simply went into hiding or got dismantled in order to prevent them from exposing any clues.
Ves had so many questions now that he learned about the existence of this newer and arguably superior variation of mechs.